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2018 Auto Bild Winter Tire Test

Jonathan Benson
Data analyzed and reviewed by Jonathan Benson
11 min read Updated
Contents
  1. Introduction
  2. Dry
  3. Wet
  4. Snow
  5. Environment
  6. Value
  7. Results
  8. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
  9. Continental WinterContact TS 860
  10. Kleber Krisalp HP3
  11. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
  12. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
  13. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
  14. Debica Frigo HP2
  15. Falken Eurowinter HS01
  16. Nokian WR D4
  17. Uniroyal MS+ 77
  18. Michelin Alpin 5
  19. Semperit Master Grip 2
  20. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
  21. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
  22. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
  23. Barum Polaris 3
  24. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
  25. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
  26. Firestone Winterhawk 3
  27. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
  28. Reference All Season
  29. Reference Summer

Test Summary
Wet Braking Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
Dry Braking Continental WinterContact TS 860
Wet Handling Kleber Krisalp HP3
Goodyear UltraGrip 9
Nokian WR D4
Rolling Resistance Nokian WR D4
Noise Continental WinterContact TS 860
Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
Snow Braking Michelin Alpin 5
Snow Handling Kleber Krisalp HP3
Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
Semperit Master Grip 2
Pirelli Cinturato Winter
Following on from the 51 winter tire braking test, the excellent German publication Auto Bild have promoted the best 20 tires to their full winter test, which covers every aspect of the winter tires performance.

As always, an (unnamed) summer and all season tire have been included as reference, and to make a change from the past few years, it isn’t the remarkable Continental WinterContact TS860 taking the top spot overall…

Dry

During the dry braking test the summer tire dominated, with the all season tire bridging the gap between the best winter tire and the summer tire (which leads us to guess the all season tire was either the Michelin CrossClimate or Continental AllSeasonContact.) Yokohama had a small dry braking advantage, but the rest of the pack was extremely close, covered by just a few meters.

Dry Braking

Spread: 7.70 M (19.5%)|Avg: 45.35 M
Dry braking in meters (Lower is better)
Dry Braking: Safety Impact: Best vs Worst Tire

Dry handling resulted with the summer tire with a similar advantage, but this time the Hankook was the leading winter tire.

Dry Handling

Spread: 5.10 Km/H (4.6%)|Avg: 106.27 Km/H
Dry Handling Average Speed (Higher is better)
  1. Reference Summer
    109.90 Km/H
  2. Reference All Season
    107.70 Km/H
  3. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    107.60 Km/H
  4. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    106.60 Km/H
  5. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    106.50 Km/H
  6. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    106.50 Km/H
  7. Michelin Alpin 5
    106.40 Km/H
  8. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    106.40 Km/H
  9. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    106.40 Km/H
  10. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    106.30 Km/H
  11. Barum Polaris 3
    106.20 Km/H
  12. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    106.20 Km/H
  13. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    106.10 Km/H
  14. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    106.00 Km/H
  15. Debica Frigo HP2
    106.00 Km/H
  16. Nokian WR D4
    105.70 Km/H
  17. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    105.60 Km/H
  18. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    105.60 Km/H
  19. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    105.20 Km/H
  20. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    105.10 Km/H
  21. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    105.10 Km/H
  22. Semperit Master Grip 2
    104.80 Km/H

Wet

Wet performance is a key factor for UK winters, so these are the most important results in the test. Both Bridgestone and Continental were the standouts of wet braking, with Dunlop, Fulda and Hankook extremely close.

Wet Braking

Spread: 3.90 M (11.4%)|Avg: 36.08 M
Wet braking in meters (Lower is better)
Wet Braking: Safety Impact: Best vs Worst Tire

Continental and Hankook were the two brands that managed to score consistently in the wet grip tests.

Wet Handling

Spread: 5.30 Km/H (7.3%)|Avg: 71.03 Km/H
Wet Handling Average Speed (Higher is better)
  1. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    72.80 Km/H
  2. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    72.50 Km/H
  3. Reference Summer
    72.30 Km/H
  4. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    72.20 Km/H
  5. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    72.10 Km/H
  6. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    72.10 Km/H
  7. Semperit Master Grip 2
    72.10 Km/H
  8. Reference All Season
    71.90 Km/H
  9. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    71.80 Km/H
  10. Michelin Alpin 5
    71.50 Km/H
  11. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    71.40 Km/H
  12. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    71.10 Km/H
  13. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    71.10 Km/H
  14. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    70.90 Km/H
  15. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    70.50 Km/H
  16. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    70.50 Km/H
  17. Debica Frigo HP2
    70.20 Km/H
  18. Nokian WR D4
    69.70 Km/H
  19. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    69.60 Km/H
  20. Barum Polaris 3
    69.50 Km/H
  21. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    69.30 Km/H
  22. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    67.50 Km/H

Continental once again proved its wet consistency with a third wet podium in the straight aquaplaning testing.

Straight Aqua

Spread: 13.20 Km/H (14.9%)|Avg: 80.81 Km/H
Float Speed in Km/H (Higher is better)
  1. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    88.30 Km/H
  2. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    86.40 Km/H
  3. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    84.80 Km/H
  4. Michelin Alpin 5
    83.80 Km/H
  5. Reference Summer
    83.60 Km/H
  6. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    83.50 Km/H
  7. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    83.50 Km/H
  8. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    83.30 Km/H
  9. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    81.30 Km/H
  10. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    81.00 Km/H
  11. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    80.60 Km/H
  12. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    80.60 Km/H
  13. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    80.30 Km/H
  14. Reference All Season
    79.60 Km/H
  15. Semperit Master Grip 2
    79.50 Km/H
  16. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    79.40 Km/H
  17. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    79.20 Km/H
  18. Nokian WR D4
    76.80 Km/H
  19. Debica Frigo HP2
    76.40 Km/H
  20. Barum Polaris 3
    75.60 Km/H
  21. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    75.20 Km/H
  22. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    75.10 Km/H

Snow

It will come as no surprise the summer tire struggled in the snow testing, with dangerous / unusable levels of performance. During snow braking Goodyear lead, but the results were close overall.

Snow Braking

Spread: 16.20 M (60%)|Avg: 28.73 M
Snow braking in meters (Lower is better)
Snow Braking: Safety Impact: Best vs Worst Tire

Snow handling once again had the Goodyear leading, with both the Pirelli and Nokian also consistent across the two tests.

Snow Handling

Spread: 25.20 Km/H (47.7%)|Avg: 50.51 Km/H
Snow handling average speed (Higher is better)
  1. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    52.80 Km/H
  2. Nokian WR D4
    52.70 Km/H
  3. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    52.60 Km/H
  4. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    52.30 Km/H
  5. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    52.20 Km/H
  6. Barum Polaris 3
    52.00 Km/H
  7. Semperit Master Grip 2
    52.00 Km/H
  8. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    51.90 Km/H
  9. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    51.80 Km/H
  10. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    51.80 Km/H
  11. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    51.70 Km/H
  12. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    51.60 Km/H
  13. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    51.60 Km/H
  14. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    51.50 Km/H
  15. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    51.50 Km/H
  16. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    51.40 Km/H
  17. Debica Frigo HP2
    51.00 Km/H
  18. Michelin Alpin 5
    50.60 Km/H
  19. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    50.40 Km/H
  20. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    50.20 Km/H
  21. Reference All Season
    50.10 Km/H
  22. Reference Summer
    27.60 Km/H

Environment

Nokian and Goodyear continued the strong results in the rolling resistance tests, with the Nokian having a huge advantage in fuel use.

Rolling Resistance

Spread: 2.18 kg / t (31.3%)|Avg: 8.38 kg / t
Rolling resistance in kg t (Lower is better)
  1. Nokian WR D4
    6.96 kg / t
  2. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    7.63 kg / t
  3. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    8.01 kg / t
  4. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    8.03 kg / t
  5. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    8.06 kg / t
  6. Barum Polaris 3
    8.11 kg / t
  7. Reference All Season
    8.15 kg / t
  8. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    8.17 kg / t
  9. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    8.32 kg / t
  10. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    8.43 kg / t
  11. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    8.48 kg / t
  12. Reference Summer
    8.48 kg / t
  13. Semperit Master Grip 2
    8.49 kg / t
  14. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    8.49 kg / t
  15. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    8.49 kg / t
  16. Debica Frigo HP2
    8.58 kg / t
  17. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    8.66 kg / t
  18. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    8.68 kg / t
  19. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    8.88 kg / t
  20. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    9.03 kg / t
  21. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    9.13 kg / t
  22. Michelin Alpin 5
    9.14 kg / t

19,000 km
£1.45/L
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Annual Difference
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Lifetime Savings
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Extra Fuel/Energy
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Extra CO2

Estimates based on typical driving conditions. Rolling resistance accounts for approximately 20% of IC vehicle fuel consumption and 25% of EV energy consumption. Actual savings vary based on driving style, vehicle weight, road conditions, and tire age. For comparative purposes only. Lifetime savings based on a 40,000km / 25,000 mile tread life.

The noise testing highlighted the fact many winter tires are now quieter than their summer counterparts.

Noise

Spread: 3.60 dB (5.6%)|Avg: 66.65 dB
External noise in dB (Lower is better)
  1. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    64.80 dB
  2. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    64.80 dB
  3. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    65.60 dB
  4. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    65.60 dB
  5. Semperit Master Grip 2
    65.60 dB
  6. Reference All Season
    65.70 dB
  7. Debica Frigo HP2
    66.00 dB
  8. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    66.20 dB
  9. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    66.30 dB
  10. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    66.30 dB
  11. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    66.40 dB
  12. Nokian WR D4
    66.40 dB
  13. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    66.50 dB
  14. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    67.30 dB
  15. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    67.40 dB
  16. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    67.40 dB
  17. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    67.70 dB
  18. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    67.80 dB
  19. Reference Summer
    67.80 dB
  20. Barum Polaris 3
    68.20 dB
  21. Michelin Alpin 5
    68.20 dB
  22. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    68.40 dB

Value

As we’ve seen with other Michelin patterns, the Alpin 5 had a clear lead in wear testing, which made them the best value tire on test. Hankook also proved to be a very low wear tire, which when combined with the lower purchase price, proved to be as equally good value as the Michelin.

Wear

Spread: 43650.00 KM (60.2%)|Avg: 44657.14 KM
Predicted tread life in KM (Higher is better)
  1. Michelin Alpin 5
    72450.00 KM
  2. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    59850.00 KM
  3. Reference All Season
    52200.00 KM
  4. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    51750.00 KM
  5. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    48600.00 KM
  6. Nokian WR D4
    47700.00 KM
  7. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    47250.00 KM
  8. Semperit Master Grip 2
    45900.00 KM
  9. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    45000.00 KM
  10. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    43650.00 KM
  11. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    43650.00 KM
  12. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    42750.00 KM
  13. Debica Frigo HP2
    41400.00 KM
  14. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    41400.00 KM
  15. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    40500.00 KM
  16. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    40500.00 KM
  17. Barum Polaris 3
    39150.00 KM
  18. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    37800.00 KM
  19. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    34200.00 KM
  20. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    33300.00 KM
  21. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    28800.00 KM

Price

Spread: 120.00 (60%)|Avg: 256.25
Price in local currency (Lower is better)
  1. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    200.00
  2. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    225.00
  3. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    230.00
  4. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    235.00
  5. Debica Frigo HP2
    235.00
  6. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    240.00
  7. Barum Polaris 3
    240.00
  8. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    245.00
  9. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    245.00
  10. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    245.00
  11. Semperit Master Grip 2
    250.00
  12. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    255.00
  13. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    260.00
  14. Nokian WR D4
    270.00
  15. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    270.00
  16. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    280.00
  17. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    290.00
  18. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    295.00
  19. Michelin Alpin 5
    295.00
  20. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    320.00

Value

Spread: 5.92 Price/1000 (145.5%)|Avg: 5.95 Price/1000
Euros/1000km based on cost/wear (Lower is better)
  1. Michelin Alpin 5
    4.07 Price/1000
  2. Hankook Winter i cept RS2
    4.09 Price/1000
  3. Firestone Winterhawk 3
    5.11 Price/1000
  4. Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
    5.38 Price/1000
  5. Semperit Master Grip 2
    5.45 Price/1000
  6. Reference All Season
    5.46 Price/1000
  7. Falken Eurowinter HS01
    5.56 Price/1000
  8. Dunlop Winter Sport 5
    5.60 Price/1000
  9. Uniroyal MS Plus 77
    5.61 Price/1000
  10. Nokian WR D4
    5.66 Price/1000
  11. Debica Frigo HP2
    5.68 Price/1000
  12. Goodyear UltraGrip 9
    5.76 Price/1000
  13. Kleber Krisalp HP3
    5.80 Price/1000
  14. Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
    5.85 Price/1000
  15. Fulda Kristall Control HP2
    5.96 Price/1000
  16. Barum Polaris 3
    6.13 Price/1000
  17. Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
    6.42 Price/1000
  18. Gislaved Euro Frost 6
    6.48 Price/1000
  19. Continental WinterContact TS 860
    6.77 Price/1000
  20. Vredestein Snowtrac 5
    8.11 Price/1000
  21. Pirelli Cinturato Winter
    9.99 Price/1000

Results

The overall results are below, and be sure to check out autobild.de, or the September 20th issue of the Auto Bild magazine for the full results.

1st

Dunlop Winter Sport 5

195/65 R15
Dunlop Winter Sport 5
Total: 49
Dry 6
Wet 7
Snow 7
Comfort 7
Rolling Resistance 7
Noise 7
Wear 8
Continental WinterContact TS 860
Total: 50
Dry 6
Wet 8
Snow 7
Comfort 9
Rolling Resistance 7
Noise 7
Wear 6
3rd

Kleber Krisalp HP3

195/65 R15
Kleber Krisalp HP3
Total: 46
Dry 6
Wet 6
Snow 9
Comfort 5
Rolling Resistance 7
Noise 8
Wear 5
Fulda Kristall Control HP2
Total: 43
Dry 5
Wet 7
Snow 7
Comfort 5
Rolling Resistance 7
Noise 7
Wear 5
5th

Hankook Winter i cept RS2

195/65 R15
Hankook Winter i cept RS2
Total: 45
Dry 6
Wet 7
Snow 8
Comfort 6
Rolling Resistance 4
Noise 5
Wear 9
6th

Goodyear UltraGrip 9

195/65 R15
Goodyear UltraGrip 9
Total: 48
Dry 5
Wet 7
Snow 9
Comfort 6
Rolling Resistance 8
Noise 6
Wear 7
7th

Debica Frigo HP2

195/65 R15
Debica Frigo HP2
Total: 39
Dry 6
Wet 5
Snow 6
Comfort 5
Rolling Resistance 6
Noise 6
Wear 5
8th

Falken Eurowinter HS01

195/65 R15
Falken Eurowinter HS01
Total: 40
Dry 6
Wet 6
Snow 5
Comfort 7
Rolling Resistance 4
Noise 7
Wear 5
9th

Nokian WR D4

195/65 R15
Nokian WR D4
Total: 46
Dry 5
Wet 4
Snow 9
Comfort 5
Rolling Resistance 10
Noise 7
Wear 6
10th

Uniroyal MS+ 77

195/65 R15
Uniroyal MS Plus 77
Total: 40
Dry 4
Wet 7
Snow 7
Comfort 7
Rolling Resistance 5
Noise 5
Wear 5
11th

Michelin Alpin 5

195/65 R15
Michelin Alpin 5
Total: 37
Dry 6
Wet 6
Snow 4
Comfort 2
Rolling Resistance 4
Noise 5
Wear 10
12th

Semperit Master Grip 2

195/65 R15
Semperit Master Grip 2
Total: 43
Dry 4
Wet 6
Snow 7
Comfort 6
Rolling Resistance 6
Noise 8
Wear 6
13th

Pirelli Cinturato Winter

195/65 R15
Pirelli Cinturato Winter
Total: 42
Dry 5
Wet 7
Snow 8
Comfort 7
Rolling Resistance 5
Noise 8
Wear 2
Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 EVO
Total: 45
Dry 5
Wet 7
Snow 4
Comfort 9
Rolling Resistance 7
Noise 8
Wear 5
Yokohama BluEarth Winter V905
Total: 43
Dry 7
Wet 6
Snow 4
Comfort 8
Rolling Resistance 6
Noise 7
Wear 5
16th

Barum Polaris 3

195/65 R15
Barum Polaris 3
Total: 36
Dry 5
Wet 4
Snow 7
Comfort 4
Rolling Resistance 7
Noise 5
Wear 4
17th

Vredestein Snowtrac 5

195/65 R15
Vredestein Snowtrac 5
Total: 35
Dry 6
Wet 4
Snow 6
Comfort 5
Rolling Resistance 6
Noise 5
Wear 3
18th

Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow

195/65 R15
Matador MP 92 Sibir Snow
Total: 37
Dry 5
Wet 4
Snow 5
Comfort 7
Rolling Resistance 6
Noise 7
Wear 3
19th

Firestone Winterhawk 3

195/65 R15
Firestone Winterhawk 3
Total: 36
Dry 5
Wet 4
Snow 5
Comfort 4
Rolling Resistance 6
Noise 6
Wear 6
20th

Gislaved Euro Frost 6

195/65 R15
Gislaved Euro Frost 6
Total: 37
Dry 5
Wet 4
Snow 6
Comfort 6
Rolling Resistance 6
Noise 6
Wear 4

Discussion

29 comments
  1. Dave archived

    I don't get it. How snow tires can be 27 meters in snow braking meanwhile all-season tires in snow braking is 16.9 meters. So... with these tests all-season tires are better then winter tires? Can someone explain it to me?

    #7635
    1. Dave Dave archived

      Just trying to figure out the distance of snow braking by Gislaved Euro Frost 6 vs Michelin CrossClimate2 and how worse all-season tires are. But i'm confused now. It can't be that All-season tires have better snow braking.

      #7636
      1. TireReviews Dave archived

        The all season tire was better than ONE winter tire in this test (from 2018) so I'm not sure what's confusing. There's bad winter tires and good all season tires

        #7637
        1. Deividas Štrimaitis TireReviews archived

          How so? Take for example the worst all-season tire Vredestein (18.08 meters) and compare to the best winter tire GoodYear Ultragrip (27 meters). So.. even the worst all-season tire outperformed the best winter tire by 9 meters shorter distance? Maybe i'm not understanding something.

          #7638
          1. Deividas Štrimaitis Deividas Štrimaitis archived

            Okey i think i got it. Numbers are just wrong in 2018 winter braking, cuz in your youtube video results seem fine and 2021 winter tire results are also fine.

            #7639
              1. Deividas Štrimaitis TireReviews archived

                I'm looking at this page above. 2018 winter tire snow braking. Best tire is 27 meters. And then i'm looking at 2021 all-season tires. Best tire at snow braking is 16.91 meters. And for example 2021 best winter tire is 15.67 meters. You sure it's correct numbers in 2018? 27 meters was the best? Just scroll up and check snow braking. If it's correct then it means over 3 years tires have improved alot. Hopefully now you understood ?

                #7641
                  1. Deividas Štrimaitis TireReviews archived

                    Yeah i didn't understand at first sorry. I thought both tests are yours. Cheers ? still would be interesting to see gislaved euro frost 6 vs. michelin crossclimate 2 but i'm sure difference wouldn't be big anyways.

                    #7646
              2. Deividas Štrimaitis TireReviews archived

                It could be that i'm comparing auto bild results to your results. Auto bild results seem very different than yours. Maybe that's the issue.

                #7642
  2. Alison Munn archived

    Looking for advice on 225/55 19 winter tire for SUV Xtrail. In Yorkshire but drive to Germany and Switzerland in winter.

    #5186
    1. TireReviews Alison Munn archived

      All the usual suspects work well in the SUV sizes :)

      #5187
  3. Andy Holmes archived

    Can't believe I missed the Kleber! Just fallen for the tread pattern, looking at tests and reviews to try and put myself off has conversely resulted in me wishing to advertise a kidney on ebay..... No winter suitable tires this year leaves me feeling vulnerable. Anybody want a kidney? :-)
    I know, Im sad, I should covet X-boxes or something, but im afraid tires are much more desirable.... :-/

    #4051
  4. Peter Mellor archived

    Hi All, From the data on the winter tires it seems that they could be used all season - would you say that this would be OK? - certainly from a cost basis - it would save money!

    #4014
    1. TireReviews Peter Mellor archived

      I'll answer with a question - if you want an all season tire, why not fit an all season tire?

      #4015
      1. Peter Mellor TireReviews archived

        I suppose its more to do with the latter part of my comment - they cost 3x as much!

        #4016
        1. TireReviews Peter Mellor archived

          A good all season and a good winter tire are pretty much priced the same!

          #4017
          1. Peter Mellor TireReviews archived

            I appreciate that - as the results of the Auto Bild test had the 20 tires cost from £64.70 to £41.60 - the older test of all season I understood to be £138 plus on those tested! If you can point me to the All season tire at the £40 to £60 mark I'd be pleased. BUT I wonder if you could say that the winter tire CAN be used all year safely or NOT?

            #4018
            1. TireReviews Peter Mellor archived

              I would guess those two tests tested different sizes hence the different prices shown...

              #4019
              1. Peter Mellor TireReviews archived

                Yes I see - was just checking the comparison and my size at 17" are significantly more than the 13" which matches the quoted price on this article. Will continue to check through and make a decision on balance between the All season and Winter as I go!

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  5. Jonathan Sweet archived

    Hi there - I have been enjoying your videos on Youtube and have now subscribed. This is the first year that I am planning on running a dedicated winter tire on a mk7 Golf R. The challenge I am finding is that a lot of the tires don't come in 235/35/19 - which is a fairly common performance size. The new Conti 860p does not come in that size, but I am thinking of plumping for the older Conti 850p (quite expensive for an older tire though). I have yet to find any winter tryre test reviews for this size, but thought I would see if you have any views or thoughts.

    Cheers

    Jon

    #3976
    1. TireReviews Jonathan Sweet archived

      Thanks for the kind words. In that size my money would go to Conti, Goodyear or Michelin, can't really go wrong with any of the big three!

      #3977
  6. Igor Voćanec archived

    Hi John, I have a question and you're probably the only one that can get an answer.
    As you know, manufacturers sell brand new "old" model tire. For example Conti WinterContact TS830P is still sold today in some dimensions, DOT XX18, even if the model is very old.
    How does this tire compound compare to original compound from years ago when this model was introduced? I'm sure it was updated... What do you think? Is this comparable to say TS850P? Thanks!

    #3935
    1. TireReviews Igor Voćanec archived

      The compounds do get updated, but there's no guarantee that it has been updated. Usually the newer tire is the better option as they have more advanced tread patterns and constructions.

      #3939
      1. Igor Voćanec TireReviews archived

        Thanks! I know that newer tire is better, it's just that some tires are only available as older models in certain dimensions

        #3941
    2. Kolemjdouci Igor Voćanec archived

      The logical reply is: The current compound is the same or potentially improved, as this is usually not explicitly commented and you would need to ask the producer directly.

      What is known more general is the models comparison, e.g. here: http://www.tirereviews.co.u...
      or here: https://www.continental-tyr...

      Would be useful if you can mention what kind of rare dimension you have that you can't find newer model than TS 830P...curious!

      Plus don't forget that newest successor for the UHP category from the given producer is http://www.tirereviews.co.u...

      Hope this helps.

      #3947
  7. Andy Holmes archived

    Seems to me they've placed too much emphasis on rolling resistance, looking at the graphs the Hankook is a bloody exceptional tire, yet it ended up quite low down. I can only see the rolling resistance weighting causing this, yet, the economy difference is very slight in real terms, and surely the significant safety benefits offered are of more importance in the winter...

    #3904
    1. TireReviews Andy Holmes archived

      I agree, but 5th overall is still an excellent result for Hankook!

      #3913