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2018 Auto Bild 15 inch Summer Tire Test

Overall test winnerHankook Ventus Prime 3 K125

There's a lot of tires in the 2018 Auto Bild 195/65 R15 test, so we'll keep the intro as short as possible and let the data do the talking.

Tires tested
20
Tested size
195/65 R15
Disciplines
9

At a glance

Tire shortlist

20 Tires tested

Published finishing positions, with the strengths and considerations from this test. Owner reviews cover other sizes and driving conditions.

1st

Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125

+Test winner with excellent all round driving qualities. Strong in the wet and wet with precise steering and short wet and dry braking. Good comfort, good value for money.

−Average aquaplaning result.

2nd

Continental Premium Contact 5

+Excellent premium tire without fault. Good steering and balance in the wet, short wet and dry braking. Quiet.

−Expensive.

3rd

Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun

+Excellent aquaplaning safety, good steering precision and stable handling in the dry. Short wet and dry braking. Low wear.

−Relatively high rolling resistance.

4th

Firestone RoadHawk

+A well priced summer tire with excellent handling, good steering precision and short braking in both the dry and wet. Good comfort.

−Noisy.

5th

Michelin Energy Saver

+Lowest wear and excellent rolling resistance. Short braking distances and precise handling in the dry.

−Poor curved aquaplaning, high purchase price.

6th

Pirelli Cinturato P1 Verde

+A well balanced premium tire with safe handling in all conditions. Short wet and dry braking distances, good mileage.

−Poor curved aquaplaning.

7th

Bridgestone Turanza T005

+Top wet result, short wet and dry braking distance, stable dry handling, low wear and ow fuel use.

−Average aquaplaning result, high price.

8th

Fulda EcoControl HP

+Very good aquaplaning, good handling and excellent steering in the dry, lowest wear on test and lowest price.

−Average wet braking.

9th

Vredestein Sportrac 5

+Balance performance in the dry and wet, short dry braking distances, low noise, low wear.

−Average aquaplaning result.

10th

Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance

+Best curved aquaplaning result, stable handling in the wet and dry.

−Average fuel use, average mileage.

11th

Dunlop Sport BluResponse

+Good aquaplaning result, stable handling in the wet and dry.

−Average fuel use, average mileage.

12th

Uniroyal RainExpert 3

+Best straight aquaplaning result, short wet braking distances.

−High levels of understeer in the wet and dry.

13th

Infinity Ecosis

+Stable dry handling, low noise, low price.

−Average aquaplaning result, average mileage.

14th

Avon ZV7

+Good aquaplaning result, good comfort.

−Understeer in the dry, average price.

15th

BFGoodrich gGrip

+VEry low wear, low rolling resistance, low fuel use.

−Poor wet grip.

16th

Cooper Zeon CS8

+Balance performance in the wet, good comfort.

−Understeer in the dry, average wear, high rolling resistance.

17th

Giti GitiSynergy E1

+Good comfort, good wear, lowest fuel use in test.

−High understeer in the dry.

18th

Kleber Dynaxer HP 3

+Low wear, good comfort, good value for money.

−Limited wet grip, long dry braking.

19th

Nokian Line

+Short braking in the dry, low rolling resistance, good comfort levels.

−Poor curved aquaplaning result, high wear.

20th

Maxxis Premitra HP5

+Short dry braking, balance wet performance.

−Very high wear making the tire the worst value on test. Average comfort.

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The full test

The evidence behind the verdict

There's a lot of tires in the 2018 Auto Bild 195/65 R15 test, so we'll keep the intro as short as possible and let the data do the talking.

It's worth keeping in mind, the twenty tires chosen for this test have been through a 51 tire wet and dry braking pretest. This means the tires included in this test are some of the best tires available on the market, had Auto Bild included some of the worst tires in the pretest, the gap between the best and the worst tires overall would have been much larger.

Dry

In the dry the Hankook dominated, winning both dry braking and dry handling tests. Firestone, which is a midrange brand developed by Bridgestone, beat its parent company to finish second in both dry tests, and the Maxxis Premitra HP5 was third best overall. 

Dry Braking

Dry braking in feet

Lower is better ↓
Dry Braking
Position / TireResultGap to best
113 ft Best
115 ft +2 ft
117 ft +4 ft
117 ft +4 ft
118 ft +5 ft
119 ft +6 ft
119 ft +6 ft
120 ft +7 ft
121 ft +8 ft
121 ft +8 ft
123 ft +10 ft
123 ft +10 ft
123 ft +10 ft
124 ft +11 ft
124 ft +11 ft
125 ft +12 ft
126 ft +13 ft
126 ft +13 ft
127 ft +14 ft
129 ft +16 ft

The difference between best and worst was 13.6% (16 ft ≈ 1 Car Lengths).

Dry Handling

Dry Handling Average Speed

Higher is better ↑
Dry Handling
Position / TireResultGap to best
71.5 mph Best
71.5 mph 0.0 mph
70.5 mph -1.0 mph
70.5 mph -1.0 mph
70.4 mph -1.1 mph
70.3 mph -1.2 mph
70.3 mph -1.2 mph
70.2 mph -1.3 mph
70.2 mph -1.3 mph
70.0 mph -1.5 mph
70.0 mph -1.5 mph
70.0 mph -1.5 mph
69.8 mph -1.7 mph
69.8 mph -1.7 mph
69.6 mph -1.9 mph
69.5 mph -2.0 mph
69.3 mph -2.2 mph
69.2 mph -2.3 mph
69.2 mph -2.3 mph
69.0 mph -2.5 mph

The difference between best and worst was 3.6% (2.5 mph).

Wet

While Bridgestone couldn't match its subrange Firestone in the dry, it dominates in the wet. The first showing of the new Turanza T005 proves Bridgestone have finally got on top of their wet weather issues, and win both wet braking and wet handling tests.

Uniroyal, a brand well known for their wet weather performance manages second during wet braking but struggles during the wet handling test, probably due to it's extremely soft sidewalls affecting the handling, while Hankook proves you can make a tire which works in both the wet and dry with the Prime 3 finishing third place in both wet braking and wet handling.

Wet Braking

Wet braking in feet

Lower is better ↓
Wet Braking
Position / TireResultGap to best
113 ft Best
113 ft 0 ft
115 ft +2 ft
118 ft +5 ft
118 ft +5 ft
118 ft +5 ft
120 ft +7 ft
121 ft +8 ft
121 ft +8 ft
122 ft +9 ft
123 ft +10 ft
123 ft +10 ft
124 ft +11 ft
125 ft +12 ft
125 ft +12 ft
125 ft +12 ft
127 ft +14 ft
128 ft +15 ft
129 ft +16 ft
130 ft +17 ft

The difference between best and worst was 15.5% (17 ft ≈ 1.2 Car Lengths).

Wet Handling

Wet Handling Average Speed

Higher is better ↑
Wet Handling
Position / TireResultGap to best
48.2 mph Best
47.8 mph -0.4 mph
47.3 mph -0.9 mph
47.3 mph -0.9 mph
47.1 mph -1.1 mph
47.0 mph -1.2 mph
47.0 mph -1.2 mph
46.9 mph -1.3 mph
46.7 mph -1.5 mph
46.7 mph -1.5 mph
46.4 mph -1.8 mph
46.3 mph -1.9 mph
46.2 mph -2.0 mph
46.1 mph -2.1 mph
46.1 mph -2.1 mph
46.0 mph -2.2 mph
45.8 mph -2.4 mph
45.7 mph -2.5 mph
45.7 mph -2.5 mph
45.5 mph -2.7 mph

The difference between best and worst was 5.5% (2.7 mph).

What the Uniroyal lacked in wet handling, it makes up for during aquaplaning testing, finishing a long way ahead of the second and third placed Avon and Goodyear.

Straight Aqua

Float Speed in mph

Higher is better ↑
Straight Aqua
Position / TireResultGap to best
56.0 mph Best
54.2 mph -1.8 mph
54.2 mph -1.8 mph
53.9 mph -2.1 mph
53.9 mph -2.1 mph
53.7 mph -2.3 mph
53.5 mph -2.5 mph
53.2 mph -2.8 mph
53.1 mph -2.9 mph
53.1 mph -2.9 mph
52.9 mph -3.1 mph
52.6 mph -3.4 mph
52.4 mph -3.6 mph
52.1 mph -3.9 mph
51.9 mph -4.1 mph
51.7 mph -4.3 mph
51.4 mph -4.6 mph
51.1 mph -4.9 mph
51.1 mph -4.9 mph
50.5 mph -5.5 mph

The difference between best and worst was 9.9% (5.5 mph).

Environment

The new brand, Giti prove to have the lowest fuel use on test by a significant margin, where Bridgestone blends low fuel use and wet performance better than any other tire.

Rolling Resistance

Rolling resistance in kg t

Lower is better ↓
Rolling Resistance
Position / TireResultGap to bestExtra fuel / year
6.2 kg/t Best $0
7.02 kg/t +0.82 kg/t $39
7.04 kg/t +0.84 kg/t $40
7.26 kg/t +1.06 kg/t $50
7.35 kg/t +1.15 kg/t $55
7.51 kg/t +1.31 kg/t $62
7.54 kg/t +1.34 kg/t $64
7.55 kg/t +1.35 kg/t $64
7.61 kg/t +1.41 kg/t $67
7.62 kg/t +1.42 kg/t $67
7.67 kg/t +1.47 kg/t $70
7.77 kg/t +1.57 kg/t $74
7.79 kg/t +1.59 kg/t $75
8.02 kg/t +1.82 kg/t $86
8.12 kg/t +1.92 kg/t $91
8.13 kg/t +1.93 kg/t $91
8.14 kg/t +1.94 kg/t $92
8.44 kg/t +2.24 kg/t $106
8.81 kg/t +2.61 kg/t $124
9.3 kg/t +3.10 kg/t $147

The difference between best and worst was 50% (3.1 kg / t). Over 12,000 miles a year at $3.60/gal, the Cooper Zeon CS8 uses about 41 gal ($147) more fuel than the Giti GitiSynergy E1.

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12,000 mi
$3.60/gal
Estimates based on typical driving conditions. Rolling resistance accounts for approximately 20% of IC vehicle fuel consumption and 25% of EV energy consumption. Actual savings vary based on driving style, vehicle weight, road conditions, and tire age. For comparative purposes only. Lifetime savings based on a 40,000km / 25,000 mile tread life.

Noise

External noise in dB

Lower is better ↓
Noise
Position / TireResultGap to best
71.7 dB Best
72 dB +0.30 dB
72.3 dB +0.60 dB
72.4 dB +0.70 dB
72.6 dB +0.90 dB
72.6 dB +0.90 dB
72.7 dB +1.00 dB
72.7 dB +1.00 dB
72.7 dB +1.00 dB
72.9 dB +1.20 dB
73 dB +1.30 dB
73.3 dB +1.60 dB
73.4 dB +1.70 dB
73.5 dB +1.80 dB
73.6 dB +1.90 dB
73.7 dB +2.00 dB
73.8 dB +2.10 dB
73.9 dB +2.20 dB
74.1 dB +2.40 dB
76.1 dB +4.40 dB

The difference between best and worst was 6.1% (4.4 dB).

Cost

While the Infinity and Maxxis are some of the cheapest tires on test (see third chart below), the Maxxis in particular proves to be very poor value due to having the highest wear.

The Fulda has the second lowest purchase price and the best projected wear, meaning the cost per 1000km is by far the best.

Value

Euros/1000km based on cost/wear

Lower is better ↓
Value
Position / TireResultGap to bestcost per 1,000 miles
3.91 Price/1000 Best €21.84
4.84 Price/1000 +0.93 Price/1000 €17.77
5.02 Price/1000 +1.11 Price/1000 €20.88
5.19 Price/1000 +1.28 Price/1000 €20.58
5.23 Price/1000 +1.32 Price/1000 €24.53
5.29 Price/1000 +1.38 Price/1000 €21.24
5.38 Price/1000 +1.47 Price/1000 €11.55
5.4 Price/1000 +1.49 Price/1000 €26.57
5.44 Price/1000 +1.53 Price/1000 €24.71
5.57 Price/1000 +1.66 Price/1000 €22.78
5.67 Price/1000 +1.76 Price/1000 €17.26
5.74 Price/1000 +1.83 Price/1000 €23.01
6.17 Price/1000 +2.26 Price/1000 €18.23
6.19 Price/1000 +2.28 Price/1000 €34.46
6.54 Price/1000 +2.63 Price/1000 €25.95
6.72 Price/1000 +2.81 Price/1000 €23.32
6.77 Price/1000 +2.86 Price/1000 €23.32
6.91 Price/1000 +3.00 Price/1000 €32.26
6.98 Price/1000 +3.07 Price/1000 €22.32
7.14 Price/1000 +3.23 Price/1000 €24.87

The difference between best and worst was 82.6% (3.23 Price/1000). Over 25,000 miles the cheapest tire to own (Giti GitiSynergy E1) works out €573 cheaper than the most expensive (Cooper Zeon CS8).

How this is calculated

Assumes a typical car doing 29 mpg (rolling resistance causing 20% of fuel use), fuel at €6.25 per gallon and €70 fitting per set of four. Purchase prices are from the time of the 2018 test; financing costs are excluded.

Wear

Predicted tread life in KM

Higher is better ↑
Wear
Position / TireResultGap to best
31,019 miles Best
29,565 miles -1,454 miles
28,111 miles -2,908 miles
27,626 miles -3,393 miles
26,414 miles -4,605 miles
26,172 miles -4,847 miles
25,687 miles -5,332 miles
25,687 miles -5,332 miles
24,233 miles -6,786 miles
23,991 miles -7,028 miles
23,749 miles -7,270 miles
23,749 miles -7,270 miles
23,264 miles -7,755 miles
22,295 miles -8,724 miles
21,810 miles -9,209 miles
21,568 miles -9,451 miles
21,568 miles -9,451 miles
21,568 miles -9,451 miles
19,871 miles -11,148 miles
16,963 miles -14,056 miles

The difference between best and worst was 45.3% (14,056 miles).

Results

The magazine scoring and testers notes below. As always, you can check out the Auto Bild website for the full details (in German)

1st

Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125

195/65 R15
Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry9
Wet7
Comfort6
Rolling Resistance6
Noise7
Wear5

Total: 40

Price
215.00
2nd

Continental Premium Contact 5

195/65 R15
Continental Premium Contact 5
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry7
Wet7
Comfort6
Rolling Resistance5
Noise7
Wear5

Total: 37

Price
250.00
3rd

Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun

195/65 R15
Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry7
Wet6
Comfort7
Rolling Resistance4
Noise7
Wear8

Total: 39

Price
240.00
4th

Firestone RoadHawk

195/65 R15
Firestone RoadHawk
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry8
Wet7
Comfort7
Rolling Resistance5
Noise4
Wear5

Total: 36

Price
200.00
5th

Michelin Energy Saver

195/65 R15
Michelin Energy Saver
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry7
Wet5
Comfort5
Rolling Resistance8
Noise7
Wear10

Total: 42

Price
270.00
6th

Pirelli Cinturato P1 Verde

195/65 R15
Pirelli Cinturato P1 Verde
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry7
Wet6
Comfort5
Rolling Resistance5
Noise6
Wear7

Total: 36

Price
225.00
7th

Bridgestone Turanza T005

195/65 R15
Bridgestone Turanza T005
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry7
Wet8
Comfort8
Rolling Resistance8
Noise5
Wear7

Total: 43

Price
260.00
8th

Fulda EcoControl HP

195/65 R15
Fulda EcoControl HP
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry7
Wet5
Comfort8
Rolling Resistance5
Noise7
Wear10

Total: 42

Price
195.00
9th

Vredestein Sportrac 5

195/65 R15
Vredestein Sportrac 5
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry6
Wet6
Comfort8
Rolling Resistance7
Noise8
Wear7

Total: 42

Price
200.00
10th

Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance

195/65 R15
Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry7
Wet7
Comfort7
Rolling Resistance7
Noise6
Wear4

Total: 38

Price
245.00
11th

Dunlop Sport BluResponse

195/65 R15
Dunlop Sport BluResponse
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry7
Wet6
Comfort6
Rolling Resistance6
Noise7
Wear4

Total: 36

Price
235.00
12th

Uniroyal RainExpert 3

195/65 R15
Uniroyal RainExpert 3
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry4
Wet7
Comfort6
Rolling Resistance5
Noise6
Wear6

Total: 34

Price
215.00
13th

Infinity Ecosis

195/65 R15
Infinity Ecosis
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry6
Wet5
Comfort4
Rolling Resistance6
Noise8
Wear4

Total: 33

Price
180.00
14th

Avon ZV7

195/65 R15
Avon ZV7
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry4
Wet6
Comfort8
Rolling Resistance3
Noise6
Wear4

Total: 31

Price
240.00
15th

BFGoodrich gGrip

195/65 R15
BFGoodrich gGrip
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry5
Wet4
Comfort6
Rolling Resistance6
Noise6
Wear9

Total: 36

Price
235.00
16th

Cooper Zeon CS8

195/65 R15
Cooper Zeon CS8
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry4
Wet6
Comfort6
Rolling Resistance2
Noise7
Wear4

Total: 29

Price
215.00
17th

Giti GitiSynergy E1

195/65 R15
Giti GitiSynergy E1
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry5
Wet4
Comfort6
Rolling Resistance10
Noise7
Wear6

Total: 38

Price
210.00
18th

Kleber Dynaxer HP 3

195/65 R15
Kleber Dynaxer HP 3
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry4
Wet4
Comfort7
Rolling Resistance6
Noise6
Wear7

Total: 34

Price
225.00
19th

Nokian Line

195/65 R15
Nokian Line
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry5
Wet5
Comfort6
Rolling Resistance6
Noise6
Wear2

Total: 30

Price
215.00
20th

Maxxis Premitra HP5

195/65 R15
Maxxis Premitra HP5
All discipline results (6)
TestResult
Dry8
Wet6
Comfort4
Rolling Resistance6
Noise7
Wear1

Total: 32

Price
195.00

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Discussion

22 comments
  1. Adrian archived

    How the top is made with Bridgestone T005 in 7th place with total of 43 points but Hankook on 1st place with 40 points, less than Bridgestone?

    I'm very interested to purchase Bridgestone T005 for a Golf 7 and see it's very good in wet. I'm sure it's ok on dry as well. The car is user in South East Europe so not too much rain as in North of Europe. I'm surpised to see it on 7th place.

    #3453
    1. TireReviews Adrian archived

      Score weighting, Auto Bild priorities certain tests over the others, such as wet braking, which in this case makes no sense.

      It will have been marked down due to aquaplaning performance.

      #3455
      1. Adrian TireReviews archived

        Ok, now I understood. Thank you for information. Hard to decide between Hankook and Bridgestone. I think I whill choose Hankook. Looks very balanced and much better orice.

        #3456
        1. TireReviews Adrian archived

          I recommended the Hankook ahead of the T005 in the video on youtube, but I think you're right, they're very very close tires and both make excellent choices.

          #3457
          1. Adrian TireReviews archived

            Yes, I whill choose Hankook because it's very good on dry when I drive the most and the climate it's most dominant, good on wet braking and handling when anyway all of us should be careful. I was Michelin fan but seems to be too expensive on similar criterias that I have. Thank you very much for all good work and plenty information provided.

            #3461
            1. TireReviews Adrian archived

              Great, let me know how you get on :)

              #3462
              1. Adrian TireReviews archived

                I read more and after a personal top 3 between model on this test from Hankook, Bridgestone and Continental I choose Bridgestone T005 as brand, caracteristics and new model. I will see how works after will arrive from shop in couple of days. The price is in the middle for Bridgestone, just 5 GBP more than Hankook and less that Continental.
                It's strange the same AutoBild scored Bridgestone second in below link and in this test they ranked on 7th place. I understand the logic just that it's strange, as a comment.

                http://www.tirereviews.co.u...

                #3473
                1. Fahrer Adrian archived

                  Hi Adrian!
                  Did you buy the Bridgestone T005 tires for your Golf 7?
                  What kind of experience do you have?

                  #3660
                2. Fahrer Adrian archived

                  Thanks for the detailed answer!
                  I have one more question.
                  How silly are the T005 tires?
                  This test shows noisy tires.

                  #3664
                  1. Adrian Fahrer archived

                    The tires are very very good, the noise it's not too much, measured in the car it wasn't more than 71 dBm at 100 km / h, depends on the road and also if air condition is on or not. I'm pleased with the noise also because the VW Golf it's very good isolated so no worries about the comfort on long drive. Maybe Michelin I heard that are better on the noise but on similar tests I saw a comment the difference between different brands inside the car is not higher than 2 dBm so no big difference. The very important difference is related to safety, stability and performance on wet and dry in any conditions, I'm very please with Bridgestone T005 comparing with Michelin that I used on other cars (Peugeot 207 and VW Golf 6) or Pirelly that I used on Golf 7. Looking back for Michelin used I remember the noise was a little lower but I didn't feel so confident on corners as with Bridgestone so I prefer T005. On 195/65 R15 they kept all 4 lines for water evacuation and for this size the performance from Bridgestone is the best, I think it's doing a very good job on other sizes as well depends on criteria from everybody. I drive on various type of roads, highways or country roads were safety, control and comfort it's the best on all situations. I drove them at the limit without worries or feeling I can lose control. Every time the feedback from the road was there and the traction from the car responded well. Looking on the price you'll see that it's a best buy performance tire, better price than Conti PC5, Michelin or Pirelly, price similar with Good Year or Dunlop but the performance it's better and new generation, it doesn't compare with previous generations, it's much better and balanced.. Look for your feedback to see what decision will take. From my side I recommend T005, it's the new generation from Bridgestone.

                    #3665
                      1. Adrian TireReviews archived

                        Hi,

                        Yes, I already did a review also on that section, thank you for all support and wonderful work with this platform to share all information.

                        #3667
                        1. TireReviews Adrian archived

                          Great, thank you for your support too :)

                          #3668
  2. Andy Holmes archived

    The wear results are to be taken with a pinch of salt. Unless these tests go to the lengths of convoy driving to wear, the 'lab wear' is not realistic. A lot of these tires have just been on my short-list, comparing test results and user reviews to find what is most appropriate, I purchased the Pirelli P1 Verde. The tests find that they offer good wet/dry grip/behavior, decent longevity, and reasonable fuel consumption, while the user reviews report just the same.
    Premium contact 5, roadhawk, t005 etc test really well, and users report similar behavior subjectively, but report appalling wear, often bearing a 'not recommended' or 'avoid' message due to the stupidly short longevity.
    I shall report my findings of the P1 verde later, but initial impressions are of a surefooted wet tire...

    #3325
    1. Thierry Priem Andy Holmes archived

      I think the wear tests are relatively accurate. Just did +- 30000km with the PC5 on the front axle of a Focus II 1.6 TDCI; 90% driving in and around town.
      Ordered the Hankooks this time; 10€ cheaper per tire and better in the dry than the PC5.
      A shame they will probably wear out just as fast...

      #3326
      1. Igor Thierry Priem archived

        I have ventus prime 3 and before premium contact 1. Hankooks are much better at handling and cornering (as expected from tires that are 2-3 generations newer) but worse in braking than PC1 (I'm really surprised here).
        I don't know if same tires on different cars can have different characteristics, but it may be the case. I remember reading somewhere sometime about cooperation between Michelin and PSA about tweaking the OEM tires for some cars from PSA.
        On OEM tires that's expected, I think there was article here on TR.co.uk about Pirelli OEM's for Mercedes, BMW and Audi and what are the differences on the same model.
        Tests of aftermarket tires are usually done using VAG vehicles, and maybe the tire manufacturers tweak the tires towards better characteristics and cooperation with the electronics on those cars. Just my thoughts.

        #3361
      2. Igor Thierry Priem archived

        I have ventus prime 3 and before premium contact 1. Hankooks are much better at handling and cornering (as expected from tires that are 2-3 generations newer) but worse in braking than PC1 (I'm really surprised here).
        I don't know if same tires on different cars can have different characteristics, but it may be the case. I remember reading somewhere sometime about cooperation between Michelin and PSA about tweaking the OEM tires for some cars from PSA.
        On OEM tires that's expected, I think there was article here on TR.co.uk about Pirelli OEM's for Mercedes, BMW and Audi and what are the differences on the same model.
        Tests of aftermarket tires are usually done using VAG vehicles, and maybe the tire manufacturers tweak the tires towards better characteristics and cooperation with the electronics on those cars. Just my thoughts.

        #3363
    2. TireReviews Andy Holmes archived

      As far as I'm aware Auto Bild run the tires for 10,000 km then extrapolate the wear from there, so it's a fairly accurate picture.

      #3327
      1. Andy Holmes TireReviews archived

        But is that a road convoy or a machine?
        Example of the Roadhawk, its showing here as reasonable, they were originally my choice, but reading the user reviews on here, most reviews are claiming that the tread almost disappears in a blink of an eye, so I stayed away for now pending more reviews/tests.
        My point was more, where wear rusults in particular are quoted, do some research by fielding reviews to see what users have found, as always, read both tests and reviews to find what suits.

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        1. TireReviews Andy Holmes archived

          I've not checked this year, but previously Auto Bild have used road convoys for wear testing.

          The disparity does interest me, I'll research it further and report back :)

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  3. J archived

    Yep, the Maxxis does wear a lot in the beginning. Ive written a review on this site about this...
    Back then I had done 10k km with them being on the rear axle.
    (183k-193k). That day I bought 2 new tires which were placed at the back (Vredestein Ultrac Satin), and the Maxxis were brought to the front. I changed to winter tires at 211k. So until now the Maxxis have done 28k.. (I'm at 220k now, but still on winter tires)..

    It seems the Maxxis premitra start wearing extremely fast, offering good grip, but after that changes character..
    I just checked the thread depth (the tires are in my garage), and it's 5mm. So 28k until now. So the first 10k on the rear axle I lost like 1.5mm (7.5 to 6mm), the next 18k at the front I lost only 1mm.

    The tires have become noisier over time, the grip in fast turns has become worse..

    Could it be that Maxxis has different rubber qualities in this tire?
    - great dry/wet result in the beginning at the cost of durability for tests like this Auto Bild test.. after the initial 'setup' the rubber changes characteristics, so ultimately the tires last as long as 'normal', but ride quality decreases..

    Because of this autobild measures terrible wear, but good other results... Which might be good for Maxxis?

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    1. TireReviews J archived

      I wouldn't want to talk about a specific brand without doing the testing myself, but it's certainly technically possible to do something as you suggest.

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