The most recent owner reviews from this car, in their own words.
Fitted these after WS70.
Same feedback, same comfort, same security - gripped and gripped and gripped on slush, snow, were happy on ice too.
Quiet, but squishy on wet.
Lasted for 9 years on same rims, but different cars with very low mileage.
Sold with ~4-5 mm still left.
Installed in 2018, very loud humming even at town speeds. I guess it did not have any phase sequencing tech at the time.
Made me to heavily update sound proofing of the car, but the humming was still there.
Other features were not that significant.
Got this tires as i didn't had much of choice because Michelin stopped the making of the Pilot Sport 4. They do not grip as the ps4, i tried to "play" with all 4 wheels tire pressure, and i can get it to grip and handle at the ps4. I'm completely do not have the confidence to throw and play with my car on corners and turns, like for 3 times i almost got thrown to the side of the road. with the ps4 it did not happen to me to me at all.... im with kw street comfort coilovers for almost 4 years, and these tires doesnt give me the grip and the confidence as it wanted... and its not very cheap either...
Pros -
tire is more comfort and "gentle" as comparing to the ps4.
breaking is really super good.
tire definitely have more "meat" on it.
Cons -
grip and handling is not as i expected from tire that should be a good upgrade from the pilot sport 4.
will not buy again.
im looking for new set of 4 tires and would defiantly replace them very soon.
This was my first winter on these tires. They replaced the Conti Winter Contact 850P, that lasted 5 winters and nearly 50000 km on italian country roads. I hadn't had the chance to drive on snow and ice during last winter, so I can't say anything about it.
I can say that 870 are more sport tourer oriented than the 850P and have a very good progressiveness. As for the previous 850P, on dry surfaces the grip is good, on wet the grip is excellent, wear is really good as well as fuel consumption. The price is quite high but Continental Winter tires are always worthy from my experience. Comfort: the sidewall is a little bit stiffer than 850P, a very little noise on wet surface can be noticed. I would recommend these tires.
Good tire, especially in comparison to the standard fit Turanza. No cons so far. Good bang for the buck on this size.
I chose the Toyo Proxes Comfort because they had great price and Wet rating A.
I have two on the rear and on the front I have two Michelin Energy Saver +.
I can't really tell the difference from before when I had four of the above mentioned Michelin.
They seem too have decent dry grip and feel good on wet too. I drive quite carefully and rarely push to the limit, although I must say I've done a couple of roundabouts and turns in a speedy manner without losing grip on the rear.
So far so good, will see on the long run. For now, it's buy again
Driving on dry surfaces was fine, horrible skidding on wet surfaces, almost lost control few times while driving around 50km/h. Changed them now and will not buy it never again. High noise level
Just bought LM005 since I need a winter tire with good performance in the wet. Mileage not important.
Reading through some negative reviews here I would like to point out that there are TWO different tires sold as LM005.
One has got A score in wet and C for rolling resistance,
the other one B in wet and A for rolling resistance pleasing the car manufacturers hunting for another gram of CO2 to save.
Should you wish to buy an LM005 for performance reasons make sure your tire dealer orders the right version.
I am just going to sum up how I felt about the tire. It was mounted on a Seat Ibiza 1.0 115HP Manual by factory.
Verdict: The tire is okay - you can see it was built for high mileage and therefore the wear is really great.
However, this comes at a lower grip in both wet and dry. The dry grip is not good - it is made from quite hard rubber which even gets harder over time. That's why it slides like hell and has a clear understeer balance in dry conditions. Wet however is even worse - Aquaplaning is quite okay but the grip is quite bad. This is when you will notice that your car also has ABS. (not even at full brake power) Don't get me wrong - the tire does everything quite well - if you are just an average driver it will be a good choice for you. But the wet grip and braking performance really makes it a bad choice for spirited drivers - you can clearly see the differences between a sports tire and a touring/economy tire like this.
I have fitted the Alpin 6 to my SEAT Ibiza 1.0 Tsi Manual built in 2018.
My ratings:
Dry: It's pretty good, no problems, especially when it's colder- warmer temperatures are also okay, but I wouldn't use it above 15°C because of a potential higher wear
Wet Grip: This is where the tire really got going - phenomenal wet grip- even on these 195mm setup, which normally isn't that good in rainy conditions.
Comfort: The tire has great comfort - more than the Bridgestone Turanza Summer or the previously use Pirelli CInturato Winter tires.
Wear: I can't say anything on that - I haven't driven enough, but I think they will last a few years (at least with my mileage)
Snow and Ice Grip: The Ibiza is a FWD car - which definetly is bad in snow and on ice - but the tire is really good - i haven't had any problems so far - it feels like you are connected to the ground under the snow. I can't say anything about ice but I think it will perform quite good for a non Ice tire.
Verdict:
So, the tire is really great - it definetly feels better in Dry and Wet conditions in comparison to the Pirelli Cinturato Winter. In Snow however I think that the Pirelli was as good - but the Alpin is the better allrounder.
So, if you're looking for an allround winter tire with great performance on any surface (except Ice) go for the Alpin 6.
