Michelin Pilot Sport 4 Reviews - Page 18
Given 89%
while driving a
Ford Focus mk2
(225/40 R18 W)
on mostly country roads
for 28,000 spirited miles
Had two sets of these tires on my modified Ford focus, excellent tires to match my blistein suspension with updated bars and link, great handling in all conditions, do start to lose this when under 2.5mm.
Given 84%
while driving a
Mercedes Benz CLA 180 AMG Line
(225/40 R18)
on mostly motorways
for 25,000 easy going miles
Excellent tire- perfect grid in wet and dry. A little bit noisy but very good feedback. Tested in my Mercedes CLA. But unfortunately do not last for long miles.
Given 73%
while driving a
Honda Civic Type R
(225/40 R18)
on mostly town
for 1,000 spirited miles
I've only had the tires fitted for about 2 months. In terms of grip and handling, I'm quite happy with the tires. I have been in sufficient bad driver incidents on the road to be more than happy with the grip the tires afford me. They are also more comfortable(softer) than my previous Asym 2 tires.
That being said, my tires have developed a noise. I've had my car serviced, they initially thought it might be a bearing problem, but they weren't able to find anything wrong with with the joints. After a test drive, my mechenic was sure it was caused by uneven wear on the tires. I've checked my tire pressure 2 -3 times during the past 2 months, so I'm sure this isn't being caused by a pressure issue. I took it back to the tire shop and they did a cross rotation, first on the front right/left rear, and then when there was still noise in the front, the left front/right rear. The noise is still present now, but quieter since it is coming from the back.
I can put 1 tire causing a problem down to a defect. 2 tires, it's a bigger issue. This is the first time I've used Michelin tires and it has been disappointing. If the current front 2 tires also develop noise over the next couple of months, I'm just switching to another brand. Can't say I'm too excited to try Michelin's again at this point.
That being said, my tires have developed a noise. I've had my car serviced, they initially thought it might be a bearing problem, but they weren't able to find anything wrong with with the joints. After a test drive, my mechenic was sure it was caused by uneven wear on the tires. I've checked my tire pressure 2 -3 times during the past 2 months, so I'm sure this isn't being caused by a pressure issue. I took it back to the tire shop and they did a cross rotation, first on the front right/left rear, and then when there was still noise in the front, the left front/right rear. The noise is still present now, but quieter since it is coming from the back.
I can put 1 tire causing a problem down to a defect. 2 tires, it's a bigger issue. This is the first time I've used Michelin tires and it has been disappointing. If the current front 2 tires also develop noise over the next couple of months, I'm just switching to another brand. Can't say I'm too excited to try Michelin's again at this point.
Given 87%
while driving a
Honda Civic FD2
(205/55 R16 W)
on mostly town
for 100 spirited miles
I just bought this PS4. I find very suitable for my driving style.
Very good wet and dry grip. Handling and road feedback is also very good. More noise than Primacy 3 but all the rest are better.
Dry grip: 9
Wet grip: 9
Road feedback: 8
Handling: 9
Comfort: 8
Buy again: 9
Very good wet and dry grip. Handling and road feedback is also very good. More noise than Primacy 3 but all the rest are better.
Dry grip: 9
Wet grip: 9
Road feedback: 8
Handling: 9
Comfort: 8
Buy again: 9
Given 94%
while driving a
Lexus IS250SE
(225/45 R17)
on mostly town
for 16,404 average miles
Currently used for 26400km, left with 4mm can able to go for another 10000km.
Performance and road holding still good!
Performance and road holding still good!
Given 89%
while driving a
Mercedes Benz C250 CDI Blutec
(255/35 R18 W)
on a combination of roads
for 8,000 spirited miles
Well, 2.5 years later im back to finish my review.
I will keep it short and sweet, 1st set performed wonderfully in every area, as per the professional reviews, except wear. With spirited driving i managed 8k miles out of my rear set, not great when i was getting 10-12k from the conti cs5 s before them. I must be right about the less 'rubber on the road' that i initially noticed. I also found they wore heavily in the center despite correct tire pressures being used.
I then ran a second set, and found that they lasted even less time, with arguably gentler driving.
I was all round impressed except the wear, and when paying £140+ per corner, this was a let down. Maybe tire manufacturers are reaching the limits of performance possibility?
I have since fitted goodyear ays 3's to the rear. Worryingly they have even wider grooves, but seem to be lasting much longer than the ps4s. The wet traction is noticably worse (but not by much) but at nearly £40 a corner cheaper i would rather suffer this, save a lot of money and have the tires last longer.
I have also just gone through front 225/40/18 PS4s. Again, the performance is unmatched, but they have worn quickly, notably more quickly than the PSS i had fitted before, and have suffered severe shoulder wear - they certainly felt like the sidewalls were not as stiff as previous tires I've used. I have regularly checked the pressures are correct. Shame.
Although with shopping around the PS4's are only £10 a cormer more than the goodyear ays 3 and conti 6, im tempted to go for the contis next in the hope they wear better/last longer. Too many reviews say the ays 3's perform poorly in the wet braking/aquaplane test for me to go for those on the front. (Shame, the ays 2's were great!)
I will keep it short and sweet, 1st set performed wonderfully in every area, as per the professional reviews, except wear. With spirited driving i managed 8k miles out of my rear set, not great when i was getting 10-12k from the conti cs5 s before them. I must be right about the less 'rubber on the road' that i initially noticed. I also found they wore heavily in the center despite correct tire pressures being used.
I then ran a second set, and found that they lasted even less time, with arguably gentler driving.
I was all round impressed except the wear, and when paying £140+ per corner, this was a let down. Maybe tire manufacturers are reaching the limits of performance possibility?
I have since fitted goodyear ays 3's to the rear. Worryingly they have even wider grooves, but seem to be lasting much longer than the ps4s. The wet traction is noticably worse (but not by much) but at nearly £40 a corner cheaper i would rather suffer this, save a lot of money and have the tires last longer.
I have also just gone through front 225/40/18 PS4s. Again, the performance is unmatched, but they have worn quickly, notably more quickly than the PSS i had fitted before, and have suffered severe shoulder wear - they certainly felt like the sidewalls were not as stiff as previous tires I've used. I have regularly checked the pressures are correct. Shame.
Although with shopping around the PS4's are only £10 a cormer more than the goodyear ays 3 and conti 6, im tempted to go for the contis next in the hope they wear better/last longer. Too many reviews say the ays 3's perform poorly in the wet braking/aquaplane test for me to go for those on the front. (Shame, the ays 2's were great!)
Given 70%
while driving a
Renault Megane RS265
(235/40 R18 W)
on mostly motorways
for 14,000 average miles
My RS 265 (with Cup pack) came with Michelin PS2 tires fitted. these managed to last a respectable 21k miles (including some rotating) before they really dropped off a cliff, and with around 3mm tread depth left I opted to change them out.
having previoulsy sworn by Kumho KU31 tires, and struggled to get these, I opted for a set of Michelin PS4 instead, thinking it would retian the same road holding and feel of the car. To a point the tires do, but athey really arent brilliant in the wet and are a great drop down from the PS2's taht came with the car originally.
at the cost I paid, and only having had 14k miles out a set, they are now at 3mm and have experienced the same dramatic fall off in grip as the PS2 had - which suggests that I really need to change them now, lots of tramlining especially in the wet, and as I live in Scotland, thats pretty much all year round.
these tires havent been pushed too hard, most driving is on a motorway - which is generally in traffic at 30mph!!! :), with maybe 2-3k miles on country roads.
overall I am very disappointed, had they lasted another 6k miles, I probably would replace with a newer set - but I wont buy these again. wear too fast, grip drops dramatically when at around 50% tread depth left - I am off to find an alternative.
having previoulsy sworn by Kumho KU31 tires, and struggled to get these, I opted for a set of Michelin PS4 instead, thinking it would retian the same road holding and feel of the car. To a point the tires do, but athey really arent brilliant in the wet and are a great drop down from the PS2's taht came with the car originally.
at the cost I paid, and only having had 14k miles out a set, they are now at 3mm and have experienced the same dramatic fall off in grip as the PS2 had - which suggests that I really need to change them now, lots of tramlining especially in the wet, and as I live in Scotland, thats pretty much all year round.
these tires havent been pushed too hard, most driving is on a motorway - which is generally in traffic at 30mph!!! :), with maybe 2-3k miles on country roads.
overall I am very disappointed, had they lasted another 6k miles, I probably would replace with a newer set - but I wont buy these again. wear too fast, grip drops dramatically when at around 50% tread depth left - I am off to find an alternative.
Given 89%
while driving a
Toyota Celica VVTLi
(205/45 R17 W)
on mostly country roads
for 20 spirited miles
I have just bought a set of 4 new Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires to replace the two I have had on the front driven wheels now for the last 17 months. Moving from Avon ZZ5s which I had found to be a very good all round tire, and were still fitted to the rear of the car, these were my findings based on daily spirited drives on twisty dual carriageway and country lanes.
My first impression based on appearance alone was that these were quality tires and a step up from the Avons. On driving, what struck me most about these tires is their sporty feel and sharp turn in. For the first couple of days I actually had to modify my steering a fraction at times to avoid oversteer. It noticeably enhanced the cars' handling with only a fractionally harder ride. The next thing that struck me was the noise. It is not excessive by any means, but these tires do produce a little more road noise than the ZZ5s. A minor point also, but worth mentioning is that, where a road has been recently re-surfaced, they also pick up significantly more grit. I discovered this whilst driving two different cars over the same stretch of road over the course of a week.
In terms of grip the car has always felt very sure-footed in both the dry and the wet whether braking, accelerating or cornering at speed. It should be noted however that this is not always the case on Winter roads. Where there is damp salt residue on the roads often long after a gritting episode, the tires can lose grip quite readily. Loss of grip has been momentary however with the tires quickly regaining their composure.
Other than that the Pilot Sport 4s have performed impeccably for almost 20,000 miles. Now, with about 1 mm to go to the wear indicators there has been a sudden tendency to tram lining and it is clear it is time to renew. I think the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 suits the Celica down to ground and I am looking forward to the new set being fitted.
My first impression based on appearance alone was that these were quality tires and a step up from the Avons. On driving, what struck me most about these tires is their sporty feel and sharp turn in. For the first couple of days I actually had to modify my steering a fraction at times to avoid oversteer. It noticeably enhanced the cars' handling with only a fractionally harder ride. The next thing that struck me was the noise. It is not excessive by any means, but these tires do produce a little more road noise than the ZZ5s. A minor point also, but worth mentioning is that, where a road has been recently re-surfaced, they also pick up significantly more grit. I discovered this whilst driving two different cars over the same stretch of road over the course of a week.
In terms of grip the car has always felt very sure-footed in both the dry and the wet whether braking, accelerating or cornering at speed. It should be noted however that this is not always the case on Winter roads. Where there is damp salt residue on the roads often long after a gritting episode, the tires can lose grip quite readily. Loss of grip has been momentary however with the tires quickly regaining their composure.
Other than that the Pilot Sport 4s have performed impeccably for almost 20,000 miles. Now, with about 1 mm to go to the wear indicators there has been a sudden tendency to tram lining and it is clear it is time to renew. I think the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 suits the Celica down to ground and I am looking forward to the new set being fitted.
Given 94%
while driving a
Ford Focus MK3
(235/40 R18 W)
on a combination of roads
for 14,000 spirited miles
I've had PS3's before and when I changed my tires last year I decided to put the newer PS4's on for the first time. All the things I loved about the 3's remain. The quick response. Excellent grip and braking in both wet and dry. I simply don't slow down for corners like I used to pre PS3 or 4s.
The confidence these tires give you is excellent. The cabin noiise is about the same as my PS3s and in comparison to the Nexens I had fitted when I purchased my car they are night and day. So much quieter.
Wear is as you would expect. Very average. I have put 14k on my first set of PS4 on my front tires. I've got approx 3mm left on them so I have switched them to the back and fitting 2 more on the front. I expect I will get 17-18k out of a set. Maybe 20k if I drive a little more smoothly.
The fuel economy is marginally better on the 4's over the 3's but honestly you don't buy arguably the best summer sports tire if you want to save fuel.
All round an excellent tire. No hesitation in recommending them for any car.
The confidence these tires give you is excellent. The cabin noiise is about the same as my PS3s and in comparison to the Nexens I had fitted when I purchased my car they are night and day. So much quieter.
Wear is as you would expect. Very average. I have put 14k on my first set of PS4 on my front tires. I've got approx 3mm left on them so I have switched them to the back and fitting 2 more on the front. I expect I will get 17-18k out of a set. Maybe 20k if I drive a little more smoothly.
The fuel economy is marginally better on the 4's over the 3's but honestly you don't buy arguably the best summer sports tire if you want to save fuel.
All round an excellent tire. No hesitation in recommending them for any car.
Given 79%
while driving a
(245/45 R19)
on mostly country roads
for 15,000 spirited miles
In brief - these tires have better grip than the OEM Primacy 3s that the Tesla came with and I would buy them again over the Primacy 3s for that reason. I may be tempted to try a different set for comparison purposes, but I would not buy Primacy 3s.
Wear - I've driven these about 15k miles so far (1-2mm legal wear left), and expect to get another 3-5k miles off of them. It's hard to compare to the Primacy 3s as the car/tires were not new when I got them, so whilst they lasted about 23k in total I don't know if that's due to the previous owners driving style compared to mine, or the tires. I do employ the full 420bhp of the electric engines, I do drive "spirited" around country road corners, and I do enjoy utilising the 4.4s 0-62 split. Given all of that, I think 18-20k miles isn't too bad.
Grip - Always hard to distinguish between the car and the tire, but the tires handle better now than the old Primacy's did at the same stage in their life. The Tesla tends to understeer and that's still true of course, but I can go a little bit more aggressively around a corner before that annoying tendency appears!
Wear - I've driven these about 15k miles so far (1-2mm legal wear left), and expect to get another 3-5k miles off of them. It's hard to compare to the Primacy 3s as the car/tires were not new when I got them, so whilst they lasted about 23k in total I don't know if that's due to the previous owners driving style compared to mine, or the tires. I do employ the full 420bhp of the electric engines, I do drive "spirited" around country road corners, and I do enjoy utilising the 4.4s 0-62 split. Given all of that, I think 18-20k miles isn't too bad.
Grip - Always hard to distinguish between the car and the tire, but the tires handle better now than the old Primacy's did at the same stage in their life. The Tesla tends to understeer and that's still true of course, but I can go a little bit more aggressively around a corner before that annoying tendency appears!
Given 51%
while driving a
BMW 530dA M Sports E39
(235/45 R17 W)
on mostly motorways
for 19,000 average miles
Had them at the front in a E39 5 series and dry handling was reasonable but they always had that slight loss of grip for a fraction and then the grip came. However this behavior ruined the driving experience.
In wet they progressively lose grip. At this range of tires i'd expect better.
Wear they are pretty weak. The front of a E39 is heavy and the shape of the tire isn't flat if you look at them in line with you. Since they have less rubber on the sides, combined with the heavy front, the rubber on the sided went pretty quickly even though i checked the tire pressure every other week.
With all this said, i'll neved buy this model again. Primacy HP are much better overall and they supposedly are inferior.
In wet they progressively lose grip. At this range of tires i'd expect better.
Wear they are pretty weak. The front of a E39 is heavy and the shape of the tire isn't flat if you look at them in line with you. Since they have less rubber on the sides, combined with the heavy front, the rubber on the sided went pretty quickly even though i checked the tire pressure every other week.
With all this said, i'll neved buy this model again. Primacy HP are much better overall and they supposedly are inferior.
Given 94%
while driving a
Volkswagen Golf 6 GTI
(225/40 R18 W)
on a combination of roads
for 6,000 spirited miles
Really good tire. Dry grip great as expected, weat grip amazing. Very happy with small wear.