Michelin Pilot Sport 4 Reviews - Page 15
Given 100%
while driving a
Mazda MX5
(205/45 R17 W)
on a combination of roads
for 621 spirited miles
For my 2017 Mazda MX-5 RF, I decided to purchase 4 new Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires. Unlike other ND Mazda MX-5 owners, I stayed with the original size, 205/45 R17, but in 88W specification. The original Bridgestone Potenza S001 tires were showing pronounced wear, at 28000 kilometres, or 17400 miles. The tires ranged from 3.4 millimetres of tread, down to 2.8 millimetres on one tire, even with regular tire rotations. Extrapolating the wear from brand new, I could''ve achieved 40000 km, or 25000 miles in total tire life. As the puncture risk was increasingly higher, this motivated me in my purchase. The other reason was wheelspin from a standing start in the dry, without serious provocation.
The roadholding and grip are first rate. As you drive hard, the tire is very progressive, towards its VERY high limits. When it does break away, it does so progressively. Oversteer is certainly still available, but its limit is higher than on the S001 tires. The steering still loads up nicely in cornering. The turn in response is direct, too. Whilst it's not quite as sharp in turn in response as the Bridgestone Potenza S001, it's still very good. The feedback through the steering wheel, and the front and rear ends remains second to none - and it does so with better impact harshness absorption. The tires' 'rolling comfort' - the ability to absorb small bumps - is WAY superior to the Potenza S001 tires. Whilst this is most likely due to the stiffer sidewalls of the S001, which contribute to their slightly sharper turn in, the reality is more harshness, with no increase in handling and driving involvement - and less comfort.
Road and tire NVH -Noise, Vibration and Harshness - is improved. Whilst the MX-5 can never be mistaken for a Lexus in terms of refinement, the improvement in this area is undeniable.
It's only early days in terms of determining wear, but I will certainly post updates as to how the tire is going.
Here in Australia, the price for each tire, for this size, at least, is between $235 to $245 dollars. I paid $235 each, with a 4 wheel alignment completed at $70. The alignment wasn't out by much, by only a millimetre. Personally, I think this is good value for money, considering the tire and its attributes.
Thus far, would I buy them again? I'd have to say a resounding 'Yes'.
Highly recommended.
The roadholding and grip are first rate. As you drive hard, the tire is very progressive, towards its VERY high limits. When it does break away, it does so progressively. Oversteer is certainly still available, but its limit is higher than on the S001 tires. The steering still loads up nicely in cornering. The turn in response is direct, too. Whilst it's not quite as sharp in turn in response as the Bridgestone Potenza S001, it's still very good. The feedback through the steering wheel, and the front and rear ends remains second to none - and it does so with better impact harshness absorption. The tires' 'rolling comfort' - the ability to absorb small bumps - is WAY superior to the Potenza S001 tires. Whilst this is most likely due to the stiffer sidewalls of the S001, which contribute to their slightly sharper turn in, the reality is more harshness, with no increase in handling and driving involvement - and less comfort.
Road and tire NVH -Noise, Vibration and Harshness - is improved. Whilst the MX-5 can never be mistaken for a Lexus in terms of refinement, the improvement in this area is undeniable.
It's only early days in terms of determining wear, but I will certainly post updates as to how the tire is going.
Here in Australia, the price for each tire, for this size, at least, is between $235 to $245 dollars. I paid $235 each, with a 4 wheel alignment completed at $70. The alignment wasn't out by much, by only a millimetre. Personally, I think this is good value for money, considering the tire and its attributes.
Thus far, would I buy them again? I'd have to say a resounding 'Yes'.
Highly recommended.
Given 77%
while driving a
BMW 218d Active Tourer
(225/50 R17)
on
for 3,000 average miles
Very well designed for dry and wet grip
Given 25%
while driving a
Mitsubishi Lancer EX 2.0 MIVEC (MAN)
(235/45 R17)
on mostly country roads
for 350 spirited miles
very dissapointing the car now feels unstable at high speed turn in is very poor with no feel floating sensation from steering not what i expected from Michelin ps4 sport can only compare these to cheap budget tires certainly no better . poor
Given 73%
while driving a
BMW 130i M
(225/40 R18 W)
on a combination of roads
for 12,000 spirited miles
Fitted these 225/40 R18 all round, replacing the runflats (Goodyear nct5) shortly after buying the car. Anything was an improvement on those, which were harsh! The runflats were also surprisingly (on many an occasion..) low on grip, very eager to break traction at the rear which was kinda fun but sadly also the front, understeering like crazy at times, which was disappointing on a RWD car..
The Michelins offered a HUGE increase in grip - in the dry but most notably in the wet when there really was an astonishing level of grip. Very confidence inspiring, enabling controlled high speed cornering and hard braking in dry and wet conditions. Which brings me to the only negative.
I don't often drive slow, but the wear rate has been simply appalling. The 12000 miles I have covered applies to the fronts which are finished, but the rears were gone after 5000! I then changed the rears for 235/40 R18 and they have fared slightly better and were noticeably grippier again on this car - they did 7000miles but now need changing again.
I should just slow down I guess but I expected more from Michelin, who are supposedly known to be more durable if you believe their advertising. But driving style has no doubt been a big factor, so YMMV.
I haven't had any other (non-rft) on this car so perhaps it just eats tires? The runflats weren't on long enough to appraise the wear rate, as I got rid as soon as possible (the rears were near dead when I got it so I took the opportunity to put 4 real tires on. Plus, my fitter would not fit non-runflat to one axle with runflats still on the other, probably for the best as the handling , I had to agree, would be interesting.
Even with the wear issue I may still buy another set as they really were excellent otherwise, but right now I'm changing these for Pirelli PZero PZ4.
The Michelins offered a HUGE increase in grip - in the dry but most notably in the wet when there really was an astonishing level of grip. Very confidence inspiring, enabling controlled high speed cornering and hard braking in dry and wet conditions. Which brings me to the only negative.
I don't often drive slow, but the wear rate has been simply appalling. The 12000 miles I have covered applies to the fronts which are finished, but the rears were gone after 5000! I then changed the rears for 235/40 R18 and they have fared slightly better and were noticeably grippier again on this car - they did 7000miles but now need changing again.
I should just slow down I guess but I expected more from Michelin, who are supposedly known to be more durable if you believe their advertising. But driving style has no doubt been a big factor, so YMMV.
I haven't had any other (non-rft) on this car so perhaps it just eats tires? The runflats weren't on long enough to appraise the wear rate, as I got rid as soon as possible (the rears were near dead when I got it so I took the opportunity to put 4 real tires on. Plus, my fitter would not fit non-runflat to one axle with runflats still on the other, probably for the best as the handling , I had to agree, would be interesting.
Even with the wear issue I may still buy another set as they really were excellent otherwise, but right now I'm changing these for Pirelli PZero PZ4.
Given 87%
while driving a
Subaru Legacy 2.0GT Spec B
(225/40 R18)
on a combination of roads
for 200 average miles
I am coming from usibg Neuton NT5000 (was good) to Bridgestone RE003 (had better grip) to this. And it feels like a totally different car. Grip is phenomenal from stand still to taking corners. Braking has improved a lot too. Can't speak for the wear as I have only had it for less than 1000km. Will update this review aa the tire ages.
Given 89%
while driving a
Opel Astra K 1.6 CDTI
(225/40 R18 W)
on mostly motorways
for 2,500 spirited miles
Very good Tire but pretty noisy especially at speeds around 120-150. Noise really makes me think of changing tires.
Peugeot 208 XY 1.6 HDI
(205/50 R16)
on a combination of roads
for 17,709 average miles
I fit the PS4 in my Peugeot 208 ehdi, and the previous tire set is PS3. PS4 is actually better than PS3, however about the wear level, the improved strength is not enough. One PS4 set can let me drive at 28500 km. The noisy of PS4 will be louder after half tire life. Therefore, I don't want to buy this again.
Given 90%
while driving a
Porsche 986 Boxster S
(225/40 R18 W)
on a combination of roads
for 0 average miles
Had 225 40 18 and 265 35 18 fitted on my 986 Boxster. It's early days but very impressed with feedback and grip in both wet and dry.
Steering was getting twitchy on the old tires and new ones were always going to improve things but I can feel whats going on and turn in is precise with great grip. Road noise is acceptable, too early to say about wear but my overall impression is of a great tire with bags of grip. Drove the car to where I work on an old airfield where the perimeter track serves as a good, safe test of corner grip, threw the Boxster at the down hill bend and it held my chosen line and even when i applied (deliberately !) some ham fisted power it just gripped and accelerated through.
Very happy I chose Michelin PS4
Steering was getting twitchy on the old tires and new ones were always going to improve things but I can feel whats going on and turn in is precise with great grip. Road noise is acceptable, too early to say about wear but my overall impression is of a great tire with bags of grip. Drove the car to where I work on an old airfield where the perimeter track serves as a good, safe test of corner grip, threw the Boxster at the down hill bend and it held my chosen line and even when i applied (deliberately !) some ham fisted power it just gripped and accelerated through.
Very happy I chose Michelin PS4
Given 80%
while driving a
BMW 330 Msport
(225/40 R18 W)
on a combination of roads
for 40,000 average miles
On my second set of Michelin pilot sport 4s. Be careful on the potholes as these tires are prone to becoming warped over time. This however happened mainly on a very badly maintained motorway between Germany and Poland. Very happy with wear rate vs grip. An overall good compromise between sport and comfort at a reasonable price in my opinion.
Given 87%
while driving a
Holden HSV VYII Avalanche wagon
(245/45 R18 W)
on mostly motorways
for 20,000 average miles
I got a set of these a year ago with about 70% tread, put on my Hsv Avalanche (V8 awd wagon). I do a lot of highway driving at night, often down mountains with half a tonne of stuff in the boot.
I am super impressed. These have never let go, no matter how wet or slick the road has been. I've pushed the car hard around some corners in the wet (unloaded) and never even gave a hint of slipping. I know this has lot to do with the awd and weight as well, but still. Very very satisfied and feel very safe with these on.
One year on, 30,000ks, rears need to be replaced, fronts are around 50%. The extra weight carrying probably adds to the wear, but given they weren't new when I got them, I cant complain with that. Would definitely buy again
I am super impressed. These have never let go, no matter how wet or slick the road has been. I've pushed the car hard around some corners in the wet (unloaded) and never even gave a hint of slipping. I know this has lot to do with the awd and weight as well, but still. Very very satisfied and feel very safe with these on.
One year on, 30,000ks, rears need to be replaced, fronts are around 50%. The extra weight carrying probably adds to the wear, but given they weren't new when I got them, I cant complain with that. Would definitely buy again
Given 64%
while driving a
Saab Automobile 9 5 Aero Saloon
(225/45 R17)
on mostly country roads
for 10 average miles
Following test reading I put a set of these tires on my SAAB 9-5 AERO in October 2016 (produced in Spain in June 2016). No complaints about handling, grip or braking - whether in the wet nor in the dry - absolutely gorgeous! HOWEVER: Michelin is boasting that these tires are to last some 12'000 km more than competitors. If this is the case, competitors may last a mere 3 - 4'000 km, as I had to throw my Pilot Sport 4's away with just 16'000 km. This is simply unacceptable. As a matter of fact, my Michelin winter tires (Alpin 4) have now run 20'000 km and look still way better than the Pilot Sport 4.
PS: I live in Switzerland, where sporty driving is regarded a capital crime, so my driving style can be considered reasonable rather than spirited..........
PS: I live in Switzerland, where sporty driving is regarded a capital crime, so my driving style can be considered reasonable rather than spirited..........
Given 70%
while driving a
BMW 650 i convertible
(275/35 R19 W)
on mostly town
for 1,000 average miles
These MPS 4 replaced MPSS on my BMW 6 series, to me these are more of grand touring tires. They are less noisy, steering is not as responsive, handling is similar but not as good even though the PSS were introduced many years ago. I know the MPSS were replaced by the MPS 4s, but still some praised the MPS 4 when compared to MPSS when they were first introduced.
Talking about the sidewall design, it is dead flat with minimum flange rim protection, this combination makes the tire look funny and ugly especially since they are on 9" OEM wheels (275 wheel range is 9-11"), the tire is wide at tread and caves in to the rim, also less wider than other same size tires. I measured the section width on my wheels and they were 260 mm ( they should be minimum of 275 on 9.5" wheels), MPSS measured 280 mm. Going to the front set of 245/40ZR19 on 8.5" wheels these look like bicycle wheels.
In short, these don't look and don't drive like sport tires.
Definitely not buying again.
Talking about the sidewall design, it is dead flat with minimum flange rim protection, this combination makes the tire look funny and ugly especially since they are on 9" OEM wheels (275 wheel range is 9-11"), the tire is wide at tread and caves in to the rim, also less wider than other same size tires. I measured the section width on my wheels and they were 260 mm ( they should be minimum of 275 on 9.5" wheels), MPSS measured 280 mm. Going to the front set of 245/40ZR19 on 8.5" wheels these look like bicycle wheels.
In short, these don't look and don't drive like sport tires.
Definitely not buying again.