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Hello, how déterminante the wear of the tire please ?
You drive ex. 5000km and you calculate aploxymatly ?
Thanks
The estimated tread life is in the test data so you can do the math yourself.
For interest, I've made a chart I hope people find useful comparing performance vs cost.
Y-axis is mild climate rating (35% dry, 45% wet, 5% snow and 5% NVH - normalised, average of 2023 Auto Bild & 2023 Tire Reviews data).
X-axis is excess annual cost, i.e. the cheapest overall tire per year is £0, with every other tire showing the additional cost (this includes 4x tires purchase price/fitting in UK, wear and fuel costs all averaged over 1 year, wear and fuel economy data from 2023 Auto Bild test).
For reference, vehicle is a Honda Civic 1.8 i-VTEC petrol, averaging 41 mpg and 14000 miles per year with 205/55R16 tires.
Data obviously not perfect as some tires Conti ASC2 & Bridgestone TAS6 and others aren't included in the 2023 Tire Reviews test, but hopefully gives a good overall picture.
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Interesting visualization! We arrive at slighty different total costs -I wonder how that came-, but the trends are the same: the tires in the upper left quadrant seem to be the "best buys" - in this size, at least.
Interesting that they also measure wear and fuel consumption, that gives us a better idea of the TCO. So I wanted to find out how the TCO of the different tires compares.
I combined for each tire the price/wear value as indicated in the test, with the fuel consumption at a price of 1,85 €/l, which seems to be the european average fuel price. From that I calculated the cost / 1.000 km, and -to put things in perspective- the total cost difference after 50.000 km, compared with the most economical option.
If I change the price to 1,6 or 2,1 €/l, there isn't that much difference: the fuel saving tires like Michelin, Kleber and Bridgestone climb one or two places in the ranking when the fuel is more expensive, those with a bad fuel consumption drop one or two places.
Some interesting conclusions: if you buy the test winning Crossclimate, then it would after 50.000 km have cost you in total just +/- 50 € more than the tire with the cheapest TCO. That is less than 1% of your total (tires + fuel) budget. Driving the Falken or Vredestein will cost you more than 300 € extra, compared to the Michelin.
But this is just one test in one size. There can be big differences in the wear and fuel consumption results when the same tires are tested in different sizes: in other Autobild tests the Quatrac scores very good on wear and the Michelin/Kleber have a high fuel consumption. In reality, factors like your driving style will influence the TCO more than the mostly small variations that we see in this calculation. The main conclusion for me, is that in the end most “budget” and most top quality tires have about the same cost. That is if you don’t have an accident with your budget tires…
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Since I was in my nerd-trip, I also added a “driving and safety” score, that is based on the dynamic test results without fuel consumption and tire cost (and with a bit more weight on the wet performance). We see that -though the premium tires in general seem to perform better on the road- there is very little correlation between the TCO and the road qualities of the tires.
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This is excellent nerding! I've just scanned it for now, I'll try and take a deeper look next week. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. If you are looking into it, you might want to compare with the results of last years AutoBild test (195/55R16). There the Kleber and Michelin are the most expensive tires in terms of TCO. A bit confusing, isn't it?
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Hello; Is it possible to get the spreadsheet so I could adjust those
results according to local prices in Poland? Good work anyway, greetings :)
No prob, but I can't send you the Excel file through this channel. I can e-mail it to you, if you want.
Of coz; Thank you v much; [email protected]
Hello; Didn't get your email; Did you send it? Greetings
Are the Kleber Quadraxer 3 and BFG Advantage All Season basically the same tire?
Tread patterns look identical and have very similar performance (Quadraxer has slightly better rolling resistance and wear though).
Both are owned by Michelin...
"Same technology. Some differences due to production machines types", whatever that means :)
it's a bit different