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2021 Auto Bild SUV Winter Tire Test

Jonathan Benson
Data analyzed and reviewed by Jonathan Benson
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  1. Bob archived

    What you think of the WR SUV 4 vs the CrossClimate 2 in 0degC to 12degC, which performs better for wet and dry braking? How much difference in performance are we talking here?

    #7975
    1. TireReviews Bob archived

      Good question. I'd side with the Michelin in the dry for sure, not sure on the wet though

      #7976
  2. Andy Race archived

    Bought a second set of alloys for our F25 BMW X3 35D which have size 245 50 R18 tires. After a set of winter tires, not a great choice in this size it seems, or not a great choice of tires that are in stock anyhow. Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 and Goodyear Ultragrip appear to be out of stock everywhere. I don't want star marked or run flats as I don't want to really pay £200 a tire, and I hate runflats. I keep looking at the Vredestein Wintrac Pro as they look to perform well and are at a decent price point. Just can't find much info on how well they wear ? Are they up there with Michelin and Goodyear in this respect or is this something that's not been tested. Would you recommend this tire? Thanks.

    #7517
    1. TireReviews Andy Race archived

      They won't have been wear tested in SUV sizes, but I Think it was in the main autobild test this year (Might have been the new wintrac)

      #7519
      1. Andy Race TireReviews archived

        Thank you for replying. It seems the Goodyear Ultragrip Performance+ is back in stock at Camskill, though they are £150/set more expensive than the Vredestein Wintrac Pro. Worth the premium?

        #7522
        1. TireReviews Andy Race archived

          That depends what test you believe... :)

          #7524
          1. Andy Race TireReviews archived

            You're not making this easy for me are you ? X-D

            #7526
            1. TireReviews Andy Race archived

              Because I don't know what I'd do either!

              #7527
              1. Andy Race TireReviews archived

                Decided to go with the Goodyear Ultragrip Performance+. Doesn't seem to be up with the best in the dry tests but I wonder if that's anything to do with the fact it has over 9mm of tread depth when new? Would have been nice to get hold of a set of Michelin Pilot Alpin 5's but not available in 245 50 18. The older Alpin 4 is, but seemingly out of stock everywhere. Looking forward to trying out the Goodyears anyhow. Thanks

                #7626
                1. TireReviews Andy Race archived

                  The extra starting tread depth will certainly cause issues in dry tests! They're still a great tire, let me know how you get on with them! :)

                  #7629
                  1. Andy Race TireReviews archived

                    I would have loved to but I was contacted by the supplier who told me the Goodyears were out of stock! Doh! Premium winter tires in this size are like rocking horse shit at the moment but I've managed to get hold of the Vredestein Wintrac Pros and getting them fitted tomorrow. Judging on the latest Auto Bild Sports Car Winter Tire Test posted I'm confident I'll be pleased. As it happens, the supplier was Camskill and whilst on the phone to them they said the Vreds were far better than the Goodyears...not that I'd take much notice of a tire suppliers opinion.

                    #7691
  3. Pedro Neves archived

    How can most of the tires have shorter braking distances in the wet than in the dry from the initial same speed (100 Km/h)? Shouldn't the wet braking distances be from 80 Km/h?

    #7405
    1. TireReviews Pedro Neves archived

      You're right, it's odd results, but it's how it's printed.

      The summer tire and Michelin were shorter in the dry, everything else looks rather strange!

      #7407
      1. Pedro Neves TireReviews archived

        Maybe they'll correct it in next month's edition. Or maybe they just used a very slippery road for the dry braking test...

        #7408
        1. TireReviews Pedro Neves archived

          I've never heard of a low mu dry braking lane, but I've asked the question to see what's up as it makes no sense!

          I would guess wet was done from 80 and it's a typo.

          #7409