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2020 Sport Auto All Season Tire Test

Jonathan Benson
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11 comments
  1. R B archived

    Regarding Michelin CrossClimate, I found it interesting that the testers said:
    '.....Sensitive to slipping so not recommended for vehicles without ESP.....'

    My previous car had CC+ and I drove about 30000 miles on the tires.

    Although very good in a wide range of conditions, I did notice occasional slight slipping of the tires when pulling away on dry roads (but not wet roads) which got slightly worse as the tires wore and was possibly more common in the first few minutes of a journey before the tires had warmed up.

    The slight slip wasn't enough to cause the ESP light to flash but I could feel it.

    I thought it was just my clumsy size 14 boots affecting the clutch control although Vector Gen 2 on my wife's car never do that despite their generally-accepted lower dry grip.

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    1. TireReviews R B archived

      Interesting, it's not something i've noticed above and beyond other all season tires when comparing them back to back, but I guess it's a thing!

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  2. Peter Lawaetz Winkler archived

    I need to decide for at a set of 235/45-18 All Seasons for a Tesla 3 Long Range for use in Denmark, should be comparable to the UK climate. For an EV rolling resistance and noise are perhaps overweighted as selection criteria, but on the other hand its a quite powerfull car, so the tires should be able to handle that safely

    Based on the test I consider the Bridgestones. However it seems that there is also a EVO version available. If the "old" A005 wins this test, the "A005 EVO" should be a "no-brainer pick"?

    I'm hesitating to this, since The Michelin CC+ seems to be the popular pick among when I consult Tesla forums.

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    1. TireReviews Peter Lawaetz Winkler archived

      The EVO version of the A005 was meant to improve the snow performance, but in testing to seems to still be very close to the regular A005, which is no bad thing.

      Where the CC+ has the edge over the A005 is wear.

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    2. Engineer_Andy Peter Lawaetz Winkler archived

      It may depend upon how much snow and ice you get and how bad it gets when you do. I run CC+s (but only 195/65 R15) on my 15yo Mazda3 in the UK and they're great, but I purposely bought them because I live in the South East/East of England, where we don't get much snow and ice and its rarely bad when we do.

      As such, a summer-biased A/S tire is the best for me, and a long-lived one even better because I don't do much mileage for the most part. The Bridgestone tire is similar or perhaps even more summer biased than the Michelin CC+.

      From previous tests, the Conti is in between the more traditional more 'winter-biased' A/S tires. There seems also to be more choice in smaller, higher profile tire combos like mine (one of the most popular sizes of tire generally), though if I recall, Michelin also did make A more sporty 'Pilot Sport AS' tire for larger, lower profile tire sizes. Not sure how new that tire design is though and whether it's offered any more.

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    3. Kolemjdouci Peter Lawaetz Winkler archived

      Compare still the new and latest tests winning Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen3, which should be between the current Michelin and Conti in its character.
      If you have at least 3-6 months for your decision, you can also wait a bit and be the early adopter of the brand new Michelin Cross Climate 2, which is already sold in the USA and to Europe it will come in early 2021. Obviously it must be even better than the current CC+.

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  3. Peter archived

    Is there any explanation for quite huge difference in rolling resistance measured for Bridgestone Blizzak LM005 (i.e. winter reference tire in this test) - 8.3 kg/t and in 2020 Auto Bild Performance Winter Tire Test - 7.35 kg/t? The tire size was the same.
    Actually, Auto Bild result seems to be too low as that would put the tire in "B" class according to EU rating, while its EU label says it is "C", i.e. rolling resistance between 7.8 and 9.0 kg/t.
    I would assume that rolling resistance result should be the most accurate and comparable from all tested parameters across diffferent tests, but apparently it isn't...

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    1. TireReviews Peter archived

      It's an interesting question. I can only assume variation in the testing but I'll dig a little deeper next week

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    2. Kolemjdouci Peter archived

      Are you/both tests comparing the same tire sizes/dimensions?

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