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2020 Auto Bild Performance Winter Tire Test

Jonathan Benson
Data analyzed and reviewed by Jonathan Benson
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  1. qwaz archived

    Need to admit I cannot understand results of this test. I need new tires by next winter, wanted to buy the same model as 5 years ago - Sottozero 3. Five years ago it was in top three of all tests I read, now its second to last? Beaten by Laufen? Giti? Or other ping-pong? Or by the tires it beat easily in 2015 tests? Like Uniroyal or Nokian? I'm pretty happy with the performance of Pirellis over those five years of use, only this year, as they are a bit older and obviously pretty worn they don't inspire as much confidence in wet as a year ago. My driving style is rather spirited, thats why I tend to buy XL tires with highest available speed ratings. Reading results of this test only made me more confused, but I'm certainly not buying chinese tires for a higher performance car, no matter what Auto Bild wrote.

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    1. TireReviews qwaz archived

      5 years ago is a long time in tires, technology moves on. Sometimes tire manufacturers roll updates into existing lines instead of creating new lines, so it might just be that Pirelli has been left behind. I do know they have a new winter tire due for winter 2021

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  2. Lukica Stipetić archived

    In this test of autobild it is interesting, how is it that vredestein wintac pro fell to 12th place and two winters ago he was the winner of the test:

    https://www.tirereviews.co....
    or
    https://www.autobild.de/art...

    Although its competition was almost identical, and also the test vehicle was a bmw 5 series.
    The dimensions of the tested tires are also the same size.

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    1. TireReviews Lukica Stipetić archived

      If I could answer that I could also answer why the Quatrac Pro did better in AB last year than mine this year!

      Looks like in this test wet and definitely snow is worse overall, so it might be a test temperature thing, or it might have been a compound update to improve elsewhere, maybe wear

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      1. Lukica Stipetić TireReviews archived

        It seems that it was not only vredestein who failed in the snow

        Snow Handling 2018 2020

        Kleber Krisalp HP3 69.360.6

        Dunlop Winter Sport 5 6961.5

        Vredestein Wintrac Pro 6959.8

        P.S.
        This year, AB added the category "snow traction" to the test, which was not the case in 2018, and it is a very useful parameter, especially for RWD vehicles.

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  3. Vasilis Machairas archived

    I ordered last week the BFGoodrich winter 2 in 205/60/16 for my C4 Spacetourer. I was between them and Kleber HP3. But the Klebers had stocking problem. Very happy with the result and let's hope the different size of the tire doesn't affect the performance

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      1. Vasilis Machairas TireReviews archived

        They will stock them in the beginning of November but as soon as i try them i will post. I have small experience of winter tires since my previous was Nokian WR D3 which kept them 4 years.

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    1. Jan Landa Vasilis Machairas archived

      Kleber HP3 and BFGoodrich g-force winter 2 are the same tires, made in the same factory in Poland just with different names. That's why I'm puzzeld about Kleber's poor snow traction performance.

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      1. Vasilis Machairas Jan Landa archived

        The snow traction performance is really a riddle for a similar tire. But on the other hand the difference in traction is 80kg. Not big deal, at least for me.

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        1. TireReviews Vasilis Machairas archived

          I prefer to look more at the braking testing over traction as it's a little more repeatable.

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          1. Vasilis Machairas TireReviews archived

            I agree. Can't wait to fit them ant test!
            Let it snow, let it snow... ?

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        2. Kolemjdouci Vasilis Machairas archived

          If the tests differences of 2 very close/same tires are rather small then a reasonable explanation can also be simply the DOT age difference, I think.

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  4. Andy Holmes archived

    Have to say, despite its ranking (mostly due to how the test is weighted) I'm impressed how well the Nokian WRA4 is still doing, its a very old tire now but still right in the thick of it by-and-large!

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    1. TireReviews Andy Holmes archived

      It's also strange as I remember the a4 being the best in the dry and poor in the snow back in 2017 and now it's seemingly reversed

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      1. Andy Holmes TireReviews archived

        Bit of a midlife update, competition is different, and importantly, different facility? Plus, different sizes of same pattern give different results. It still performed pretty well in the dry.
        I drove them in 215/50 17 on a vectra in the dry, and they weren't bad at all, but could tell even with the vectra's inert steering that they were a winter tire.

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