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2016 ADAC Tire Test - 185/65 R15

Jonathan Benson
Data analyzed and reviewed by Jonathan Benson
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8 comments
  1. 4cvg archived

    Now that the T002 has been released, it will be interesting to see if it has a stabler tread & tauter structure than the T001 (which has a weakness in each of these aspects).

    #2104
    1. TireReviews 4cvg archived

      Bridgestone have so far released no details of the T002 (or even the fact it's launched), we'll try and find some information now.

      #2105
  2. 4cvg archived

    odd that there's no pirelli and surprising that the kh27 doesn't do poorly in the wet - some recent re-compounding perhaps?

    #2077
    1. TireReviews 4cvg archived

      Pirelli will have been asked to submit, they must have had a new product due which they couldn't manufacturer in time, and chose not to submit the older tire.

      #2079
      1. 4cvg TireReviews archived

        I would have thought that the P7 Blue would be the candidate tire & that it would not be up for modification at the moment. Still, I'll await events.

        My curiosity about the KH 27 is motivated by it being about the only tire available in 165/65-15 in Australia & I have been tentatively suggesting it to rear-engined Renault owning acquaintances with 4.5" rims as surely being better than Nankang or Michelin Classic XZX in 145/80 or Xas FF in 155/78 or Vredestein Classic Sprint in 155/80. All of these are rather dire in the wet (a matter of some interest in a rear-engined Renault).

        #2083
    2. Andy Holmes 4cvg archived

      Indeed, the user reviews I've read of this tire are dire! (that rhymes) loads of people saying they are lethal in the wet, a real backward step from the kh17...
      It is something that puzzles me however with these tests, they are scientific, but somehow the tires show very differently from the real world behaviour. Some come up short in the wet when everyone and their grandmother says they are unstickable, and some which have a huge and deserved reputation for soiling underwear everytime there is a drop of moisture manage to test well, or at least a whole lot better than they should. Other than manufacturers supplying seriously modified sets, how does this happen!?

      #2138
      1. TireReviews Andy Holmes archived

        Different versions of the tire, different test conditions, and sometimes user reviews are simply wrong! This is why it's best to combine user reviews and real world test data to help you pick the right tire.

        #2145
        1. Andy Holmes TireReviews archived

          Well thats exactly what i do personally, but when a singular test says one thing and the majority of users say the opposite, you have to wonder...

          #2150