Stuart May 5, 2013 archived

Considering replacing the sp01 I have with these. Just need to find them in stock.
I take it that they're the next generation but with better grip and economy.
Let's hope they drive just as well.
Noise seems to be up though. Rolling resistance is better so could still be quieter.
Just hope the EU tests won't cause the same problem that has been caused by tax bands...making tires that fit the tests and not the consumer!

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1. TireReviews Stuart May 7, 2013 archived
  
  "Just hope the EU tests won't cause the same problem that has been caused by tax bands...making tires that fit the tests and not the consumer!"
  This is exactly what is happening at the budget end of the market!
  
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Sam Mar 23, 2013 archived

I now have a set of Pirelli Cinturato P7s and found them to be very good in wet weather. I bought it for its wet weather performance after reading previous tire tests. That being said, I haven't had any experience with any of the oher tires tested here so I guess I can't really compare them in the same way that they have done.
However, I'm curious: in the 2010 Auto Zeitung Premium Touring Tire Test, the Cinturato P7 came second with 253 points, and they commented that it had good wet braking performance and in fact won the wet braking test. In 2013, the same organisation rates the same tire as having long wet braking distances and poor wet traction, and it finished with a score of 208.
Why is there such a discrepancy between the two results? Even if I were to accept that the Cinturato P7 is a 2009 release and there are better and more advanced tires released since then, surely the Cinturato P7's strong points in 2010 can't suddenly become its weak points in 2013.

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1. TireReviews Sam Mar 25, 2013 archived
  
  There are many factors which influence a wet braking tire test such as tire size, ambient temperature, water depth, road CoF.
  Also worth considering is how far the competition have moved the game on to ensure a strong wet braking label score, with nearly all the tires above it newer designs.
  
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  1. Pedro Rolinski TireReviews Apr 16, 2013 archived
    
    Well, it's worthless trying to explain what the factor might have been. If you took your time to post their review in your site, take your time also to ask them why the results ended up being so different and post it here. These so called tire tests are anything but scientific. It's impossible that a 2010 review from the same company labels the P7 as a low rolling resistance tire and now says it has a high rolling resistance. I won't review a tire in the summer with 35 celsius and give it a high score and review it again later in the spring with 3 or 4 degrees and call it a piece of crap. If the reviewer didn't explain the conditions on their article page (temps, pressures, water depth, car, weight and traction...) shame on them, otherwise, shame on you.
    
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2. Perica Knezevic Sam Apr 3, 2014 archived
  
  I had P7 for 4 years and it was made in Poland. Worst tire ever. Everything they said on top is true...
  
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