Very poor value for money. On dry: No worries about road holding in dry conditions with a fairly dynamic and comfortable ride. Largely suitable for tires in this range. On the other hand there is a very strong and unpleasant squealing in the turns even when driving quietly. On wet road: I have never had such bad tires on wet ground. Very complicated not to spin at the start, aquaplaning from the slightest puddle of water even at moderate speed, very poor cornering. There's nothing going! Lifespan: I punctured at 15,000 km, not repairable so I couldn't go to the end, but they seemed to me to be quite damaged. Rather average at this level I would say. Conclusion: I'm not so unhappy to have punctured finally, I changed them for Michelin Primacy 4, day and night. In any case, off can be good promotion, they are to be avoided and are a very bad deal! If you live in a rainy area, run away!