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What about the Pirelli P Zero PZ4 vs the Bridgestone Potenza s001? I have just bought Potemza S001 Y XL for my Giulietta 2.0 as they used to have rigid flanks and last at least 25000 /30 000 km..what do you think?
Not sure if it helps, my GQV has Pirelli P Zero PZ4 tires which are brilliant on both dry and wet, the main issue is I´ve done almost 14.000 km and the rear tires are practically done.
I have done 30000 km with the last set of Bridgestone Potenza S001 and they were done. I was curious about P Zero PZ4 because I have heard that it has great holding but it's not that rigid to contrast car rolling.
Sorry I missed this! The PZ4 should offer better wet grip than the S001, and the ride comfort should be better too. If you're looking for a good grip / comfort the Asymmetric 5 is also a great tire to look into.
No problem! I see, better grip! Anyway what I liked a lot of Potenza S001 is the rigidity of the tire shoulder and I appreciated that because my Giulietta has good stability but it suffer a little of rolling so rigid tires compensate a little.
Would have liked to have seen the Eagle F1 SS in the test, but nm.
We tested it in our test :)
https://www.tirereviews.co....
In the magazine it said the Maxxis Victra Sport 5 would have would the test, beating Pirelli, had it been available to buy through wholesale - which i believe they are now?
That's correct, though I'm not sure what the question is? :)
Haha no question as such - just thought there would be some mention of it now that it's available to buy :)
Ah great, thank you for the comment :)
I'm also disappointed not to be able to view the results of this tire as well. Just because it was on wholesale at that point people can still use the test for future reference. It would be nice to see which categories it was strongest in and how close it was in other sections. I have seen that it comes with a treadwear rating of 320 in a review in Australia. So in theory same wear as a PS4? Seriously considering these for my next two tires as I have found them locally for £70 per tire on 225/45/17.
The results were in the magazine, but not part of the final scoring as pre-production tires can differ from the tires you end up buying in the aftermarket.
Hey! Why there is no PS 4S edition? Its available (gooosh finally...) in this 18" size
Can't have been available at the time of test. I've not officially heard about an 18" PS4S in the UK market!
The final oddity that i notice is that the Pirelli tire is top of the class for both wet and dry handling. Considering performance in one usually means sacrificing the other i am very surprised that it was so far ahead of even the nearest competitor in both tests.
I'd better get a tin foil hat and join the conspiracy nuts at this rate.
Also, a Golf GTI, not even an "R"? not really the car of choice to truly test the limits of a UHP tire. If the car was supplied by Pirelli, then again it would be safe to assume that this is their test car for that tire, again literally tailor made for the car. However, i understand that it can be hard to find a size that all manufacturers supply for a true comparison.
I think the GTI is dynamically better than the R, lighter, more feel, and for an 18" size, not the worst choice :)
Would the fact that they are using the Pirelli test track not in itself give an advantage to the Pirelli tires? Surely the Pirelli tires will have spent many thousands of miles more on this track than the competition. They are literally tailor made for this track.
There can be a SMALL home advantage at the hosts track, but look at the latest few tests from Uvalde, Continentals test facility. They've not won. The huge advantage of the PZ4 won't just be doing to being at Pirelli's facility, it was by far the best tire on test
Pirelli was good in the "auto bild sports car" too, but never did Falken and Nokian Powerproof do this "badly".
something stinks in this test
I'm sure there would have been no foul play, a lot of the EVO result is based on subjectivity, which is afterall subjective. The biggest surprise for me was Falken doing so badly in comfort testing, as nearly all other tests call this a comfortable tire.
Sponsored by Pirelli, no?
Nope! Pirelli will have provided the proving grounds and vehicle etc, but EVO will have planned and conducted the entire test themselves with no influence from Pirelli.
Thanks for that.
The image is of the "luxury saloon" variant. Was this indeed the variant tested? (And would you be able to separate the listings of the two variants please?)
Sport tire (Pirelli) against sporty/comfy tires from Conti and Michelin is an useless comparison in my opinion. Should have been Conti SportContact5 and Michelin Pilot Super Sport (Since Michelin has no 4S on offer for some strange reason). I know those are older types but so is the Dunlop RT2.....
The difference is the RT2 hasn't been replaced yet, the PSS and CSC5 have. The PC6 is also more sporty than the CSC5 in a lot of sizes too, don't let the name fool you
OK, understood. One thing though: The PS4 is not a real replacement for the PSS but again, it's strange that Michelin doesn't offer the PS4S in this popular size.
In the meantime my compliments for all the services and information on these pages. Many thanks. Greetings from the Netherlands.
With the Pirelli naming mess it would be really helpful to know which version of the p4z did get tested:
SC or LS - since the Pz4 dominates the wet tests also I would guess it was the LS version as I would expect the SC version to be extremely good on dry with less good performance on wet
As far as I understand, only the SC version is available to the aftermarket, so it would have been that
Mhh last year I don't know. At the moment I can order SC easily, depending on the size those are OE version.