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2019 Auto Bild Winter 17 inch Tire Test

Jonathan Benson
Data analyzed and reviewed by Jonathan Benson
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  1. Bayar archived

    Hello.
    I generally prefer Michelin tires but in 2019 Goodyear Ultragrip Performance+ takes good results on tests and in addition this tire is %25 cheaper than Michelin. If we compare Michelin Alpin 6 and Goodyear Ultragrip Performance+ which one will be your preference? why? do you have experinces about these 2 tires?
    Many thanks.

    #5486
    1. Bayar Bayar archived

      I use my car in Istanbul, and the tire sizes are 215/55R17

      #5487
      1. TireReviews Bayar archived

        I've not used either, but looking at the test data I would lean towards the Goodyear if it's 25% cheaper!

        #5488
  2. Mircea Caraiman archived

    Hello! for 235/40R18, what would you choose between BF Goodrich g-force winter 2 and Hankook icept EVO2? I can only find info on RS2, but EVO2 not much. BF Goodrich is like 15 euro / tire cheaper. Also, are the Hankooks actually that noisy or in reality not that unconfortable? I live in Romania, lately not much snow, only wet and dry, lets say 3-4 weeks of snow usually. Ty.

    #5467
      1. Mircea Caraiman TireReviews archived

        You could, but its 130-150 Euros more / set (really close to Blizzaks and Continental ts850p). Anyway, bought the BF Goodrich 1 day ago, they seem decent enough so far.

        #5470
  3. Robert Ridge archived

    The graphs are misleading, as (except for snow braking) they do not show zero. Minor differences look large if the graph shows only the leading edge of the data. In addition, there is no information regarding how the tests were done, how many times, and any error margins. From a scientific point of view these tests and the shown results are about as misleading as you could possibly make them. However good or bad each tire might be, your tests show nothing believable. For example, if you reproduce the snow handling graph showing the data from zero, it would look just like the snow braking graph rather than the "image" of large differences.

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  4. George archived

    Hi,
    I am living in Athens Greece where the winders are mild but I am skiing and I want to have a second set of winder tires for January to March. But besides the days on the mountain where the conditions will be around 0 degrees with snow, during the everyday life this tires will cross mostly dry conditions with high temperatures for a snow tire (mostly above 10 degrees, some days even 20).
    What is your recommendation where I should accommodate pure winder conditions and mild conditions as well?
    Thanks!

    #5382
    1. George George archived

      any comment? thank you in advance!

      #5442
      1. TireReviews George archived

        Sorry for the delay in replying. For this, I'd probably consider the Continental Allseasoncontact or Ts860. I'd go for the all seasons if you'll be on mostly treated roads when skiing, or the winters if you will travel a little more off piste

        #5445
  5. Hristijan Curukoski archived

    I've seen many of your tests and I've read many articles regarding differences between premium and mid-range tires. I still can't understand why in the world i would spend thousands on a premium tires when i can buy lets say Apollo Aspire XP Winter tire which costs half the price compared to GY, Conti etc and have only marginal differences in performances. I mean the differences are so minimal and hardly noticeable while the price gap is huge. What am i missing here? Thanks!

    #5372
    1. TireReviews Hristijan Curukoski archived

      Half the price isn't quite right, we're tracking it at 75 vs 95 so not a massive difference, and the price charged reflects the quality of tire, the new Aspire is an excellent midrange tire!

      Everyone can make their own choice based on the data and the local market pricing :)

      #5374
  6. Carlo Marcello Alberici archived

    To whom it may concern:

    I just recently purchased the Continental WinterContact tires for my Volkswagen T-ROC 2.0 TDI 4MOTION. Do you recommend that I also buy chains for my all wheel drive car?

    Sincerely,
    Carlo Marcello Alberici

    #5289
    1. TireReviews Carlo Marcello Alberici archived

      Hi,

      It depends how much snow and ice you might encounter. I wouldn't worry too much about chains for most "normal" winter conditions if you have AWD and winter tires.

      #5290
  7. An drus archived

    funny review
    7th: BFGoodrich gForce Winter 2
    15th: Kleber Krisalp HP3

    Same tire different name (for different markets) and different positions from 7 to 15 :)

    #5262
  8. orki archived

    Hi, what tire would you recommend bridgeston blizzak LM005 or goodyear performance+?
    Don't use it much in snow condition.

    #5256
    1. TireReviews orki archived

      The Goodyear is winning more tests this year

      #5259
      1. orki TireReviews archived

        Thanks. In my size there is still only continental TS860. As GY are difficult to order, what would you recommend between TS850, LM005, nokian wr4 and michelin alpin 5?

        #5323
  9. Dalibor Prodanović archived

    Hello,

    this tire test was for 225/45/17. I am driving Citroen C4 Grand Picasso (y. 2013) and the car has a tire size 215/50/17.

    Do this tests qualifie also for this tire 215/50/17? Or should i look for other tests in this size?

    Thank you...

    #5255
  10. Gergo Asok archived

    Hi,

    I have seen winter test here lately, and there was so different results using nearly same tires. What could be a truth of these? For example at Kleber Krisalp HP3
    ADAC 2nd place
    AUTOBILD 15th place
    another AUTOBILD overview 8th place

    Why could be so different results at same tire?

    #5226
    1. TireReviews Gergo Asok archived

      Tire size might be the biggest factor here, ADAC might have tested a size that's had a recent update, where as Autobild might have an older compound tire. That said, with the results so close, many things can change the overall results.

      #5227
  11. Vlad Daniel Bargau archived

    Hi. Between the GY UG Performance+ and Vredestein Wintrac Pro ( 215/55/17 98V ) what would you choose? Where i live ( Romania ) we have max 2-3 weeks of snow in the winter season ( Nov - March ). Mostly dry and wet. Sometimes i go u to ski resorts, but i have a Passat 4motion, so traction would not be a great issue. I saw that Vredestein is doing better in dry and wet...
    Suggestions? :)

    #5221
    1. TireReviews Vlad Daniel Bargau archived

      Very difficult question! I'd likely pick the Goodyear, just because they're slightly newer. They both seem excellent choices.

      #5223
  12. Briscs archived

    Another interesting article thanks Jonathan.

    The question of value really depends on the performance of tires throughout their life. Michelin currently make a big play on their tires performance down to 1.6mm and I keep coming back to this article:

    http://www.tirereviews.co.u...

    But also in the original Autobild article:

    https://www.autobild.de/bil...

    Though my German language skills amount to relying on Mr Google my understanding is that apart from Michelin and Goodyear the other tire makes don't perform in certain conditions below 4mm and even approaching that level their performance is failing off.

    It's a shame that this all life data of tire performance is not really available to Mr J Public.

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    1. Scour Briscs archived

      Yor last link only mentioned All Season tires.

      This topic not so easy. Michelin published a report, made by Dekra and TÜV, on behalf of Michelin. A review with ~ 2mm and different winter tires. Michelin is -who wonder- the winner, the looser of this review was Bridgestone LM001 Evo by far the worst performance.

      But: Conti TS860, Dunlop Wintersport 5 and Goodyear Ultra Grip 9 weren´t far away.

      But (2nd) only tested were traction and braking on snow. No handling, no other tests.

      This report/review only shows: If you are on the way in a crowd in which all cars drive dangerously worn tires you are maybe have the best performance, but if there is also anyone with midrange winter tires with more than 3mm you will loose ;)

      That´s not enough to buy Michelin and drive it to 2mm.

      In Germany the winter are also wet, raining, snow melting. It´s not funny to drive on german Autobahn in wet conditions with a 2mm tire.

      In the neighbor country Austria (where many germans make a trip to skiing) a winter tire with less than 4mm is not recognized as a winter tire, You have to pay a punishment from 35€ to 5000€(!).

      #5218