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I really appreciate your reviews. Actual objective testing. I'm trying to decide between the Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail and the Michelin Defender LTX. Most interested in how they compare on snow. Do you have any insight on how they compare? Appreciate that you included the Michelin LTX in your A/T review as a reference! Would be great to see the Wildpeak A/T Trail in a future snow comparison. Thanks!
I guess they would be close, though I've not seen much snow data of the Wildpeak Trail, sorry
I'm trying to decide between the firestones and the Continentals. My priorities in order are wet performance, snow performance, efficiency, nvh. I understand the opposing nature of my priorities. One thing I noticed is that in your test the firestones dominate the Continentals in the snow. But in tire racks test, it was the opposite. The the Continentals beat the firestones definitively in the snow. Both tests had the Continentals better in the wet. I wonder if this is because of different tire sizes, test methods, or the nature of snow testing not always being repeatable.
Interesting! Can you link me the tirerack test you're looking at?
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=292
here is the test I was talking about.
That is curious. I don't really have an answer, it could be down to temperature or due to the size. IT's worth noting the Conti is not snow rated (3peak), and if it was that much further ahead of the Firestone (which is) Conti would have almost certainly certified it for snow.
I remember you mentioned that, continental does not put the three peak Mark unless it far surpasses the requirements. If it really dominated the firestones, I'd imagine that to be the case.
Consumer reports review on the Firestone compared to the Continentals muddy's the water even more. It ranked them about the same in the snow and ice. But gave the firestones a really poor score in wet breaking, and a much lower score overall.
tires are complicated.
however, since tire rack and consumer reports tested the 265 width, and, Tire reviews tested 275, which is closer to my 285 size. I'm guessing your data is more relevant to me.
subjectively, I believe you said you wear cc2s in the winter. How do the CC2s compare in the winter versus an all-terrain with good snow performance. I would imagine it's better. But are we talking a little bit or night and day.
Tires are complicated, and the answer to the CC2 vs a good snow AT is also hard.
I ran the Nokian Outpost nATs in a test against the all weather WRG4 and they weren't too far off. I also had the nAT on my personal car and the CC2 on my wifes car and in a totally non scientific test they felt pretty close, however I'm sure the CC2 would have the advantage in nearly all types of snow and ice (maybe deep snow an AT tire would have the edge)
Thanks for the insight, I could talk tires all day. I think I'll try out the firestones, and see how it does on my mountain pass runs. I'll make sure to leave a review either way. Please keep up the tire gospel, there aren't that many sources in the US.
Look forward to hearing your feedback!
HI
Loved vidio thanks I have Pirelli Scorpion Zero 285/45/r22 M&S, Spending 12 weeks in Fench Alps and I can oly get hold of Yokohama Geolander with moutin 3 peak symbel. Just want best grip safest tyer is it worth buying these or are they as much as much and stay with My Pirelli M&S
Do not need by law in France and Yokohame only tire available in UK at present, thanks in adavance
3peak should give you better winter performance. Pack chains or socks whatever you do.
Is the Nokian Outpost nAT a better all terrain tire in the snow than this test winning BF Goodrich Trail Terrain?
I can't find a head to head comparison of these 2 tires. I'm leaning towards the Outpost nAT but this comparison test has me wondering if the the Trail Terrain is superior in the snow? Snow traction is my highest priority but I can't go with a pure snow tire because i don't want to run 2 sets of tires here in New
England
I don't know, no one has tested it. FWIW the nAT is a different category, it would square up to the K02. I do know both are excellent in the snow, just not which is better.
Would love to see the Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S make it into these snow and on/off-road tests!
I'll try my best to include it in the future test
Also the Cooper Discoverer AT3 Sport 2 as a comparison, as that is also 3 Peak rated.
A comparison between a companies different tires with regards to how they categorise their 3PMSF tires would be interesting
I would be very interested in a similar test for the LT-rated tires, including the popular aggressive ones (BFG K02, Falken Wildpeak AT3W, etc). There would be some crossover with this one with the G015 and Open Country AT3, but they have substantially more tread depth in the LT sizes.
Almost everyone I know with a pickup runs an LT-rated aggressive AT tire. Many run them year round because they think snow performance is “fine” but a few of us run Hakka LT3 or similar studded LT tires. (And some stud out hybrid tires like Duratracs for better deep snow performance.)
I hope to do this next year!