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what is the time difference in lap time between Michelin Pilot Sport 4 All season tire compared to Pilot Sport 4 Summer , on dry, on one lap ? thank you.
I don't know, however I'm going to test this in Sept :)
thank you ,great.
forgot to add in summer conditions. i saw your previous great compare of tire in cold and wet temperatures.
i wonder how much we give up in UHP AS vs UHP Summer in dry, warm conditions (20-30C)
Hello, thanks for great test! I was just wondering what would you recommend for all season tire closest to summer performance tire? Have to get MS tires so I can use highway fall and spring. I have Nokian Haka 3 for winter season. Audi Q5
Hello, I really love the detailed reviews and helpful information.
Did you happen to do any aquaplane resistance tests with the all season UHP? If not, did you get a feel of which ones might stand out? Goodyear Exhilirate or ExtremeContact?
Thanks. That’s the 1 category that I've seen take many cars out in 1 day than any other(2 tonight).
I didn't, and I don't remember any extra subjective notes about it, sorry. While aquaplaning is rare, it can be a big issue! At a guess I would say the Conti would be the tire to pick if aquaplaning is important to you.
I’ve been watching the YouTube channel and running through the site and I’ve not been able to find a review on the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 5 M+S UHP All seasons that come stock on the Tesla Model Ys.
Is there a chance this is in your lineup soon? Loads of non M+S reviews but not that specific tire.
As this seems to be a tesla specific tire and only available in north america, i might struggle to test it, sorry!
Hi, love the site, and videos, and all the info! Thank you!! In the 7 UHP Tires Test, was it the Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06, or the DWS 06 Plus that was tested? If not the Plus, why?
Thanks!
Chris
It was non-plus, the plus wasn't available on the market at time of purchasing tires for the test (which is often way in advance of the video being published)
Will we ever see reviews for American all seasons ( touring not UHP ). I come here to answer my families tire questions for summer performance, performance winters, Nordic winters and all weathers. But most of the tires sold in NA are touring (american) all seasons. You posted Consumer Reports' winter tire testing but not their (american) all seasons testing. WHY DO YOU HATE US! :-) It would be nice to get your prospective on the balance between tread wear and wet performance. I'm very confused on the difference between non performance european summers and non performance american all seasons.
Working on it for next year :)
If you have the latest consumer reports tests feel free to email them over, I'll happily update the site :)
I sent using contact us, page ( No email address on website ), your move sir!
Thanks for sending, sadly I've not got anything. You can email me on hello @ tirereviews.co.uk :)
I used a google drive link, perhaps your spam filter caught it. I just emailed the PDF's directly. Again, your move sir!
Hi, just subscribed to tire reviews and have been watching several of the very informative videos and related articles. So much to take on board and consider. I have an AMG C63S estate. With the weather recently changing colder, I found myself going sideways at a sensible/normal/usual speed for the same location. It was 2 degrees. The tread depth is fine and they are MO marked Conti's front and Dunlop's rear that were on when I bought it. I now understand they are 'summer' tires, and performance drops off below about 7 degrees..... I wonder how many people make the same uninformed mistake with worse consequences! I'm now looking to change them. I was previously aware of 'winter' tires, but in my 40+ years of driving various cars have just had 'normal' tires on all year. I now only do a low mileage, and wouldn't use it in the snow, but it is my daily drive so at least want to be able to safely use it in the cold. I'm not planning on tracking it either, just some occasional spirited driving on quiet B roads etc', otherwise normal driving on UK roads, so was thinking of 'normal' tires, at least for the winter months, but struggled to find them in the existing tire sizes. I don't really need 'winter' tires so having studied this site, I'm leaning more towards all season tires, but they only seem to do my size in the UHP category. I've watched the wet / dry / snow UHP A/S reviews, but they seemed to be in extremes of snow and warm. For UK climate and snow being a low priority, which would you fit to a 500bhp rear wheel drive car? Do they even do an MO marked version? Thanks.
You don't get this type of tire in the uk, you're best off putting winter tires on if you want mobility in all conditions, or just leaving your summer/normal tires on and dealing with the fact a C63S is going to struggle with traction in cold and wet with almost any tires
I wonder how the CrossClimate 2s would compare with the PAS4s!
They've a fair bit better in the snow, not not as good in the dry. Not sure on wet
The dilemma! Crossclimate 2s for the occasional snow or PAS4s for the days when it's dry! Do you think the PAS4s will be better in the dry even when it's sub zero temps (e.g -5 to -10C)?
I do yes, but that's a guess!
Would love to see this comparison as well, i.e premium touring all season and UHP all season, I was debating between DWS06 and Crossclimate for my GLA45AMG, DWS06 was cheaper despite being UHP, not too sure what makes it "Ultra High Performance" beacuse it seems it just compromised on every single aspect especially on poor weather condition where it seems the "All Weather" Crossclimate is superior, but UHP do have higher speed rating and perhaps better dry handling which is rather useless because no one really do track in winter or in all season tires.
So the majority of these UHP AS tires are not available in the UK specifically.
Seeing as you recommend an AS tire over a full winter for the UK, what would you recommend?
I'm looking for either:
205/40/R18 (OEM size but restricts options)
215/40/R18
225/40/R18
It's sad they're not.
CC2 is the go-to recommendation for me at the moment, but the Hankook, Conti and Goodyear products all have their merits too.
So the CC2 tread pattern blocks don't look the most sporty, although that may just be misleading...
Which of the above recommendations would you say is most biased towards performance cars in lieu of the top UHP options?
Sadly none are biased towards performance cars, but the CC2 is usually the most "sporty" of the all season tires available.
Just bought a mini Cooper electric came with Perelli summer tires live in New Jersey 8 days of snow looking for your recommendation winter tire all season tire?
The Michelin CrossClimate 2 is an excellent all weather tire that will perform in snow
What was the test water depth?
Handling is usually around 1mm and aquaplaning around 8mm
Hello TireReviews! Would it be possible please, to inform us what UHP All Season tires are available in Europe? As you know much better, many if not most, especially the best ones, are currently available mainly in the U.S. and Canada. Also, if there is any indication that some of these might also be marketed in European countries in the near future. Personally I need size 205/45ZR17/XL 88(Y or W) for a Peugeot 207RC and reading your review, but also being a Michelin biased driver, ideally or in ... theory, if that was possible (!) I think I would be happy with the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. Anyway, I am very satisfied with the summer Pilot Sport 4 that have to be replaced soon. Mind you that in Greece where I live, the mid and north country have a winter climate not much milder than central Europe's, just the winter is shorter. With thanks for the valuable, rich and reliable information that you are offering us!
Unfortunately as far as I'm aware there are currently no UHPAS tires available in your size outside of maybe the Vredestein Quatrac Pro. I'm hoping that will change in the future.
Thanks a lot for your prompt response! It seems that probably I'll have to fit summer tires, as usual, or wait a bit ... In that case and if it is not asking too much, instead of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4, in your opinion could I try the Good Year Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 this time? Is it comfortable enough, as the RC has really hard suspensions. (For example the Potenza RE050A with which it came from the factory, made the car even harder, while the difference in softness with the Michelin is impressive).
I think the Asym 5 is a great alternative, the difference in comfort levels is often smaller than the difference in price!
Please review the new Continental ExtremeContact DWS06plus with a snow review if you can. I’d love to see how it performs compared to the outgoing DWS06.
I'll try and sort something this year
Hi there. I love your reviews, which I watch on YouTube whenever you post. Wondering if you can help me with a decision.
I just purchased a new 2020 Audi A3 Technik (in Canada, where I live, it is a sedan/saloon and it has the 45 tfsi engine and Quattro). It is quick (0-60 in 5.5 seconds) because it is small and light, though it is obviously not a powerful car. It came with the typical, dull all-season tires one might expect, so I am wanting to upgrade in the Spring. I have already purchased a set of winter tires, on aftermarket rims, as winters here can be nasty. Previously, I had a set of Yokohama Advan Apex V601 (summer performance) tires on my most recent car - a Mustang GT. They were great with that much power (460hp to the rear wheels). Before that I had a set of Pirelli Ultra High Performance all-season tires on a Subaru Legacy (symmetrical all-wheel drive, of course). They seemed great with that amount of power and all-wheel drive.
For my Audi, I am considering either Summer performance tires, as I had for my Mustang, or All-season tires, such as Grand Touring (e.g. Continental PureContact LS) or Ultra High Performance (e.g. Yokohama Advan Sport A/S+).
My question is this - with Quattro and only 228 hp / 258 ft.lbs. torque, will I really notice much of a difference between these categories? I love to drive mountain highways during the summer, perhaps faster than I should, and on straighter highways I like to cruise at speeds between 130-150 km/h. I know I need a good speed rating, V or higher, but I'm just not sure what type of tire to get.
Any tips or advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Morgan
Nice little car!
If you're really after enjoyment, I'd certainly be looking at a UHP summer tire rather than all season, you just can't beat them. But, if you might encounter poor weather on those tires, their appeal quickly drops, so for me, the decision should be based on your driving patterns.
Amazing video, as always. Now for the important bit. Which can we get in the UK? And WHY ON EARTH are they available in the USA but not in Europe???
Good question. As they stand now, they will have too little wet grip to be competitive in the European market thanks to the very low tread wear, however I think a European adapted version of these tires would be super useful.
I see. Oh well. I still believe it is a shame. In your opinion, which of the tires we have available in the UK would be the closest to these? I want a performance tire for the summer that wont let me stuck with a bit of snow. I already had the Michelin CrossClimate+, and while its all I need for the snow it is not a good summer tire, I wouldn't say its comparable to even mediocre summer tires, at its best. Much less a high performance tire (like the ones you tested here, even when they are not fully summer tires).
Currently I'm in between the Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3 or the Bridgestone Weather Control A005... For a (relatively) high performance car (C320 with a remap) which would be the closest in performance to these from the USA market?
I have not found a way to compare them, except extrapolating data from this test:
https://www.tirerack.com/ti...
And this one:
https://www.tirerack.com/ti...
Where we can see that the Exhilarate vastly outperform the CrossClimate+
Thanks!
I'm afraid you've already had the most summer like AS tire with the CrossClimate. If you want to retain summer performance, you're going to need to fit a summer and AS / winter tire combination.
The CC+ will vastly out perform the Exhilarate in the snow and ice though.
I was hoping that the Vector 4Seasons Gen 3 would be better! Oh well, is not that we have that much choice. Thanks!
You have a choice - in the US already now, the Michelin CrossClimate 2 (from 2021 in Europe), which is better than CC+ and maybe you could already find some of the first US tests there comparing it with your 2 preferred favorites.
Based on that US comparison, if applicable, you could make your informed choice in Europe, soon next year (21).
P.S. Don't forget the brand new (10/2020) baked sportive Dunlop Sport All Season...
When launched, the word "Sport" is mentioned in the introduction promo text 13 times! :-)
https://news.goodyear.eu/th...
Thanks... to small!!! it is for compact cars :)
The early reports of the US spec CC2 seem to have it as a more comfort bias tire.
In the UK from 1.1.2021 the newly imported tires might be sold with the extra WTO tariff in...depends on dealers.
I'm also seeking a UK "winter" tire solution for my Aston Martin (V8 Vantage). Not planning on taking it out in the snow and ice, so I think full winter tires such as the OEM SottoZero would be overkill. Just need something that stops it performing like Bambi on ice when the temp drops below 5 degs. What options are there? I've been looking into it and hardly any of the all season tires go big enough 275/35/R19.
I'm not sure of any all season option in that size, so I'd be looking at smaller wheels, or a summer bias performance winter tire such as the 860s:
https://www.tyrereviews.com...
Thanks for the swift reposnse, and great reviews by the way. I did find an option on BS Weathercontrol EVO if I go up a tad in profile to 275/40 rears and 235/45 fronts, you seemed to rate these highly for UK driving conditions. Any thoughts on how these might compare to the OEM winter of SottoZero serie 2?
I've never tested the Pirelli, especially not the OE version of that tire. It's a tricky one to call, for most combinations I'd go with the A005, however with the SottoZero being an asym pattern and potentially modified to cope with the astons power, I'm on the fence (sorry)
No worries. I'll try the AM forums for some feedback
Let me know what you discover!
OEM winter Pirelli SottoZero serie 2 is a very old winter model, so there is good chance that the new all seasons BS Weathercontrol EVO will be for the UK weather overall much better (except heavy snow/ice).
that's what I was thinking, the SottoZero must be 10 year old tech. I see Pirelli now offer a Winter version of the P-Zero, this might be what I'm looking for, so I've enquired with them about size availability in the UK.
Is there a chance a more recent aston would have run the same size they updated it? It's not unusual for aftermarket tires to receive silent compound updates. But if it was a tire that was really homologated ten years ago, that definitely swings it.
I think the last model to have been developed with a 19" wheel option would have been the V8Vs from around 2012. The newer models such as the new Vantage and DB11 would be a 20" winter tire option, having just looked this up the tire option on the DB11 is now a Blizzak whereas the new Vantage remains on the SottoZero, albeit at the 20" size. The 19" SottoZero is still a dealer fit option for the older cars like mine, but I've no idea if the compound will have been updated at all from the original homologation. Only feedback so far from the AM Forum is that people still rate the SottoZero, but I guess that's with nothing to compare against. Feels like we need a new group test!!!
In the 18' tire category you would have a much broader and cheaper offer, have you checked your car's homologated smaller tire sizes? You can also save on buying lower speed index, for winter tire its conditionally allowed.
Pirelli SottoZero 2 was replaced directly by SottoZero 3, many years ago. Although the brand new coming Winter P-Zero would be still better, not sure if you will soon get your 19' size...and the price of the brand new model...
For the UK and your big car it might still be better to go for the all seasons tire (garage space, costs, longevity reasons).