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Can you run track day tires on a normal car? Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 vs Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S

Jonathan Benson
Written by Jonathan Benson
1 min read Updated

Will a track day tire kill you if you try and use it year round? Can a semi slick tire, intended for life on track, generate any grip at freezing temperatures?

To try and ask this question I fitted a set of the excellent Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s to an E92 BMW M3, and drove on them across winter.

Watch the video for the full findings!

If you have any questions or comments please feel free to ask below, or on the YouTube page!

Discussion

18 comments
  1. turbobungle archived

    I'm about to head to the 'Ring with Cup 2's just fitted to my BMW M4, can anyone recommend hot and cold pressures I should be running please? And what sort of temperature range do Cup 2's need to operate in? Thanks

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  2. Tiretim archived

    Is there any word from Michelin of if/when 16 inch and 15 inch sizes could be available?

    #3305
    1. Tiretim Tiretim archived

      Also, is there any word on the 17 inch and 18 inch sizes of PS4S currently available in the US coming to Europe?

      #3307
      1. TireReviews Tiretim archived

        There are currently no plans to officially import those sizes of the PS4S to the UK... :(

        #3309
        1. Tiretim TireReviews archived

          Thanks for the responses. I'm really after a replacement to the 205/50R15 Michelin Cup 1 but it doesn't look like Michelin will cater to that market anymore.

          Do you know if there's many differences between a US sourced say 225/45R17 PS4S and a Europe sourced 225/45R17 PS4? I'd be less upset if it's just a name change, but it looks like several of the tire manufacturers aren't bringing their Premier "Road" performance tires to Europe. I'm particularly sad about the lack of the Continental ExtremeContact Sport in Europe.

          #3316
          1. TireReviews Tiretim archived

            As far as I'm aware, the smaller sized PS4S tires America has access to are the genuine deal, they're not a rebranded PS4.

            Regarding tires like the Continental ExtremeContact Sport, we essentially do have it as the Sport Contact 6.

            Ranges like the Continental ExtremeContact DWS would perform badly in Europe compared to our premium summer offerings as American market tires have a higher focus on mileage, which reduces the wet grip properties of the tire.

            #3317
            1. Tiretim TireReviews archived

              That's interesting about the ExtremeContact Sport. However, I am after it in 205/50R15 and the Sport Contact 6 isn't offered below 19". I'd jump on a Sport Contact 6 in that size (or a PS4S, Cup 2, Cup 1, or even a PS4) but the manufacturers don't seem interested. I contacted Continental UK to try and buy some, they merely directed me to the Premium Contact 2!

              #3318
              1. TireReviews Tiretim archived

                This sounds like a good excuse for some new, larger wheels :)

                #3319
              2. 1hp Tiretim archived

                Research the AD08R if you didn't already know it.

                #3338
    2. TireReviews Tiretim archived

      I'll find out from Michelin and let you know :)

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  3. Dave archived

    I use track day tires all year round on my vRS (NS2Rs), have done for years without issue, however we do have another car (4wd Alfa Romeo Brera) that we fit with winter tires, and the vRS doesn't go out in freezing or frosty/snowy conditions!

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    1. TireReviews Dave archived

      Sounds like a great way of doing it :)

      #3275
  4. kelper archived

    Is it legal to use track tires on public roads? In all weather? I guess it is if the insurance company agree?

    #3249
    1. TireReviews kelper archived

      Perfectly legal in the uk as long as the tires are e marked!

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    2. dufonrafal . kelper archived

      Not a real slick track tire, no.

      But the PSC2 is a "semi-slick", a track tire that has been designed to be road legal.

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  5. Toby archived

    Any chance you can do a compare review/test on PS4S and standard PS4 (no s?)

    #3247
    1. TireReviews Toby archived

      I'd love to at some point :) The differences won't be huge but I'd love to back to back them.

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